whats worse on cr judgment or bankruptcy?

"Really?? Because it doesn't look to me like that is what I said"

Whether the judge "makes" or merely "tells" the creditor what to do is both a quibble and entirely beside the point. Law, ethics and an oath of office require the judge to follow procedure, and to do so impartially. Furthermore he wants to get this junk off his desk with a minimum of fuss. Spend a day or three watching the calendar call in these cases. Then come back and tell me how many deals like yours got cut before judgment.

"By the way, WhatTheF, aka CalLawyer, if you are so concerned about people on this forum being given erroneous advice, why don't you become a member and help some of them out with some real legal advice?"

Because first, it's unethical for a lawyer to dispense legal advice without reviewing the client's file and speaking with her in a confidential setting. Second, I’ve spent many hours staffing local pro bono clinics, which is the proper place to help people, and I routinely give out free advice to people in these situations: all they have to do is call. And third, genuine advice isn't the true purpose of this place.

Look at this thing critically Alias: why would this board be so slow on a weekend, just when other forums all over the 'net are going gangbusters? Why don't these boards point debtors to the wealth of low and no-cost legal aid available in most U.S. cities, or the best self-help books and forms all available for free at the local library or on county court websites? Alias, who calls you back when you sign up for the consultations offered here, who pays their salaries, and where does the money come from?

Open your eyes Alias, and you’ll see that the truth is the same regardless how high your horse.

I see, so your real purpose is only to criticize this board and its members. Well, that was pretty clear, even before your most recent post.

And you, with your fancy legal degree, entirely missed the point of my post that you are so critical of. The point was that the person should show up in court and avoid a default judgment. Showing up at least gives them a CHANCE of having SOMETHING go their way, instead of just not going and having EVERYTHING go the plaintiff's way.

Alias, you haven't understood a single thing I've said, but as the saying goes, "there are none so blind as those who will not see."

More than a few people now are beginning to ask the right questions here. I hope that soon you'll be one them.

Good luck and best wishes to you.

i only have one question whathef,why don't you leave and never post again?i have had enough of your lawyer/nugget speak.ladybug posted from experience,who are you to say anything.alias also posted good info,you seem to want to push getting a lawyer down everyone's throats.same with a few other lawyer/nuggets.i can't wait to hear your response,if you have one.

Dude, you have got to do better than that. I just don't think you can.

You see, the real battle over the crimes seen here is only just beginning. Your anti-lawyer gibberish will only help prove them.

what the crap happened

What happened is that Nolo, aka CalLawyer, aka WhatTheF, aka AnotherPaidShill, aka VeryConcerned, aka attorney911, aka etc., etc., etc. thinks that everyone who has a debt concern or question should be consulting an attorney, and that everyone else on this site should keep their mouths shut, unless we are opening them to tell everyone that they should consult an attorney.

However, his real concern isn't for the people who come here looking for help. His real concern is that he doesn't like the forum, owners, moderators, members, etc.

right on alias,why don't you start your own sight.i even thought
of a name. i'mashysterlawyer.com. how's that work for you whatthef?

It is my understanding that some of our members here are attorneys, or have been. There is enough knowledge here that just may surpass the "Bar Association". I think we will be just fine with out the "aka" person. Are who knows, maybe he or she will come around and discover that we are only here to help and this sites track record reflects as such.

Oh, but according to the aka person, it would be unethical for an attorney to give advice on a forum such as this. Oh, and it's also bordering on illegal, or maybe downright illegal, for anyone else to give advice on a forum such as this. Just ask him.

As I said, it is "my understand" and a true attorney such as he or she will understand that it is just my opinion . Alias1958 you know as will as I do that these people come here and crap and then leave...that will never change. Lets take care of all the ones that are here for help and enjoy each others company while we do it.

love ya,
Luke

Working on the new site right now, great idea, thanks. (Actually, that's precisely why I'm here.)

OT, Nolo Press, which I always recommend, is a non-profit with a very nice website. Not SEO mind you, but anyway Nolo produces truly excellent, inexpensive legal books and forms covering just about every imaginable legal problem, including debtor-creditor law. You can check out Nolo's stuff for free at your local library.

Meanwhile here, on this putative "self help" site for debtors boasting a kazillion pages full of beautifully implemented SEM and "social engineering," how many references does Google find to "Nolo," the largest, oldest and most trusted publisher of self-help law materials on the planet?

Six.

(Lots of references to for-profit "debt settlement" companies and the like though. Think about it.)

Yes, Luke, I agree. Maybe if we just ignore him, he'll go away!

I have to ask...this book "Nolo" when is the last publication? I would like to add it to my collection.

thank you,
Luke

No way dude, you need to pay me first!



(Just kidding.)

Truly, if your request is in earnest I'll look poke around for you. FYI, Nolo isn't a book, it's a company, and the book that's apropos here was "money trouble" or something similar. There's several others well worth reviewing in the debtor-creditor law context.

All are regularly updated, but I don't know off-hand when.

Like I said, if you're sincere let me know and I'll come up with some specific recommendations.

Signed,

Your Friendly Neighborhood Ambulance Chaser
(tights not included)

P.S. Alias, you may ignore me any time, really. BTW, ever devote any thought to the root of the word "ignorance?"

As much as I would like your recommendations I cannot except them at the cost of you disrespecting the members here. When you find a way to help me and respect each other, then I would like your help.

Thank You,
Luke