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Sub: #1 PLEASE HELP!! BK7 Auto loan question
Replied on 07-01-2009, 03:43 PM
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I am filing BK7 in Indiana, I bought my first "NEW" car in 2005 with the help of a co-buyer who is my grandfather. The car has had major problems since. I had to have a new engine put in it in April of this year, which cost $3500 and now its in the shop again needing a new oil pan costing another $380. The car only has a little over 40,000 miles on it. I do not want to keep this piece of SH*T car plus now I am losing my job at the end of this month and have already seen the BK lawyer. My questions are:
1.If I file BK on the car what responsibility will my gpa have? He is 85 now and his health is getting worse by the day. I do not want to burden him with this, but I cannot afford to keep the car.

2. My BK court uses nada to value the car, would they take into consideration all the trouble I have had with it to assess it's value?
The NADA value on my car ranges from $4,650 $5,500 $6,200 $7,700* now in my eyes since I had an accident with it 2 weeks after owning it and the front bumper had to be replaced, along with the engine trouble I have had the car would be worth the lowest value. My payoff quote is $6700 which is about $2000 more than what it is worth.

3. What will happen to my/my grandfather because I am currently one month behind in payments and do not want to pay anymore on this car if I don't have to?

Thanks in advance for any and all help you can give me!




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Replied on 07-01-2009, 03:58 PM
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The will end up repo'ing it and your grandfather will be held liable for the deficiency balance.

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Replied on 07-01-2009, 04:02 PM
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thank you... is there anyway around this, maybe since we are co-owners that 50% of the debt will be discharged?




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Replied on 07-01-2009, 04:07 PM
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Any deficiency balance after the auction will become the responsibility of the co-maker of the loan....the entire debt is discharged for you but not for him.

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Replied on 07-01-2009, 04:16 PM
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do you know how they value the car?

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Replied on 07-01-2009, 04:57 PM
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I took my car to a local dealer and they were able to give me a trade in value good for 30 day's...My attorney was pleased with this. And SoapLady is right the Co- signer is liable. That is the whole reason for a Co- signer..... Are you using a Attorney??? He should be able to assist you. Godd Luck to you and your Grandpa..

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Replied on 07-01-2009, 05:03 PM
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thanks for your help, I am trying to convince my granpa we should sell the car, but not sure how that will affect the BK, and he is very reluctant to do anything with it, be it-selling it, including it in the bk etc. and yes I am using an attorney, but he said I needed to talk to my gpa first, so I guess when I go in to talk to my attorney on friday I will see what my options are. Thanks again!

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Replied on 07-05-2009, 01:19 AM
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I filed Chapter 7 back in 2005 and my mom was a co-signer on the car. Basically what I did was put her down as a debitor when I filed bankruptcy. She was not responsible for the remainder of the balance that was due after they sold the car at a auction. There is no item on her credit report that shows her ever being a co-signer on the loan with me. I'm not sure if anyone has ever had any luck with that, but that's what happened when I filed bankruptcy. Good luck with everything.




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Replied on 07-05-2009, 02:50 AM
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How did you get away with that chocolate? You didnt owe your mom anything thus she was not a creditor. The bank is the creditor.

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Replied on 07-06-2009, 02:24 AM
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I don't know, but we've checked her credit report and it's not even showing on there. I had a damn good bankruptcy lawyer is all I can say. I know that she got a bankruptcy letter like I did when I filed for bankruptcy. She was listed with everyone who I owed money to.




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Replied on 07-06-2009, 02:50 AM
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Everyone who is listed on the BK papers will receive a notice from the courts...the courts dont verify any information However she didnt OWE YOU anything...she owed your bank or finance company since the contract/prom note was with them, not you.

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Replied on 07-07-2009, 02:04 AM
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I understand that. I'm just stating that she was never required to pay the lender a dime after I filed Chapter 7. She even contacted the lender and there was anothing owed on the loan. As stated before, it's not even listed on none of the three credit reports for her.

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Replied on 07-07-2009, 07:28 AM
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Is it possible the car was sold for the amount of the loan balance, that is why your mom owed nothing?




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