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Replied on 11-18-2009, 04:06 PM
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Doing yet more research on Chapter 13. My husband is hesitant to pursue this route as it may affect his military security clearance.

I may file alone and take the hit.

From my research, due to our income, we'd be dong a 100% repay on our debt. I feel certain I can include all debt that is in my name only as well as joint accounts. Since we'd be at 100% repay, our joint account creditors could not go after my husband. In theory, this shouldn't affect his credit score since the BK is in my name and all debt is being repaid.

However, can I include accounts where I am just the authorized user? Does anyone know? I realize I am not liable for that debt but would like to include it. That way, I can clear all our debt in five years with only me filing Chapter 13.

I know I need to ask a BK attorney but thought I'd start here first in my research gathering.


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Replied on 11-18-2009, 05:07 PM
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However, can I include accounts where I am just the authorized user? Does anyone know? I realize I am not liable for that debt but would like to include it. That way, I can clear all our debt in five years with only me filing Chapter 13.
The BK laws provide a stay for co-debtors (as in the case of joint accounts), but does not provide relief for authorized users. Since you are not legally responsible for those accounts (they are not your debts), I don't think you could legally list them in your bankruptcy petition; and even if the creditors filed claims, the bankruptcy trustee could hold those claims invalid (or alternatively, it would actually be illegal for those creditors to file claims knowing that it is not your debt).

So I'm sorry to say, I think your BK attorney will also tell you that you cannot include those accounts where you are only an authorized user.......

Now, in the time leading up to the BK filing, maybe it's possible for you to convert those into joint accounts, which then makes you liable for the debt and then you could include them ????????? (I don't know).

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In theory, this shouldn't affect his credit score since the BK is in my name and all debt is being repaid.
The CII indicator on your credit report (which lists bankruptcy status) is specific to the debtor, not the debt. On your credit report, it would show as "Included in Chapter 13 Bankruptcy". But that CII would not show on your husband's credit report. Therefore, as the account becomes delinquent and eventually charged off, those statuses will still reflect on his credit report.

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Replied on 11-18-2009, 05:13 PM
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Thanks for that info, Debt Cruncher. Hmm. Guess I've got more thinking to do!

I know that I should consider settlement before BK. However, from a legal standpoint (avoiding lawsuits,etc), BK just seems best. I owe AMEX 40K so can't repay them rapidly.

But we probably can't afford it if I'm claiming just my debt and our joint debt.


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Replied on 11-19-2009, 05:31 AM
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You might want to consider Debt Consolidation before you contemplate bankruptcy. I just learned that if you propose a good-faith plan that proposes to pay at least 60% of the debt, and the creditor refuses, then their claims can be reduced if you do ultimately file a bankrupty:
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(1) The court, on the motion of the debtor and after a hearing, may reduce a claim filed under this section based in whole on an unsecured consumer debt by not more than 20 percent of the claim, if— (A) the claim was filed by a creditor who unreasonably refused to negotiate a reasonable alternative repayment schedule proposed on behalf of the debtor by an approved nonprofit budget and credit counseling agency described in section 111;
(B) the offer of the debtor under subparagraph (A)— (i) was made at least 60 days before the date of the filing of the petition; and
(ii) provided for payment of at least 60 percent of the amount of the debt over a period not to exceed the repayment period of the loan, or a reasonable extension thereof;






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