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04-13-2007, 10:21 AM
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I have old debts with last contact from mid 1998. At that time I tried to get them to work with me but, they refused and only demanded large payments I could not make. So I have avoided them ever since. I was told that the SOL runs from point of last contact which was nine years ago now. Somehow they have gotten hold of my current phone number and are leaving voicemails stating this a call for my full name and that they are attempting to collect a debt. They have no way of knowing it this is actually my phone or someone elses since my greeting does not indicate who they have reached. The beginning of their message states that by continuing to listen your are acknowledging that you are my full name. Most anyone out of curiosity would listen to such a message to see what it is about so, aren't they violating some law by leaving such messages that could potentially be heard by someone other than you? How do I get them to stop without letting them know they have actually reached me?
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04-13-2007, 10:28 AM
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I received calls like this at work that were left on my voice mail. I always thought it was kind of dumb, cause like you said, anyone would or could listen to it. My voice mail greeting does start out giving my name and I thought that was how they got around leaving it. Now, if yours doesn't give any identifying info, it does seem like they could potentially be in the wrong. If they have your phone number, then it seems like they could get other info like employment, address, etc. How long have they been calling?
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04-13-2007, 10:34 AM
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Yes, it is illegal for any creditor or collector to leave open messages for anyone to hear. They can only state who they are and who they are trying to contact. Keep the recordings/messages that they left. You may need them to 'make a deal'.
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04-13-2007, 10:36 AM
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They have been calling a couple times a week for a couple of months and a second one just started with almost exactly the same message as the first one.
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04-13-2007, 10:36 AM
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In regards to the SOL, if you have expired the time on the debt, you legally do not have to pay, but they can still seek you out to pay it. Just ignore them, I would, and send them a cease and desist order, via certified mail. You can visit my site, and on the side is a link to a sample letter. Hope I helped a little.
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04-13-2007, 10:37 AM
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I forgot to ask; which collection agency is calling you?
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04-13-2007, 10:41 AM
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Wouldn't a cease and desist letter constitute a contact so they can start the SOL over again if it is not quite past? I don't know what the SOL is in Florida. I have heard that some collection agencies falsify point of last contact dates to keep the debt alive anyway.
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04-13-2007, 10:44 AM
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Contact does not restart the clock, only making a payment does.
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04-13-2007, 10:46 AM
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If any collection agency falsifies their records to restart a SOL clock, trust me, it will become known, due to having to produce a method of payment. Not only would they face fraud charges, but also the banking commission of their state and your state would become involved.
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04-13-2007, 10:48 AM
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Since the Secret Service covers crossing state lines fraud, as well as the FBI, not many collectors would opt to make up a fake payment or SOL restart.
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AACC which is Asset Acceptance is the new one but I am not sure about the other one since the caller ID only says not provided. One caller ID said M P S ATMS. I turned off my voicemail yesterday so they can't leave anymore messages since anyone that really needs to get in touch with me has my cell phone number.
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04-13-2007, 10:49 AM
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If you visit my site, I have a lnik to the Secret Service and the FBI, and their website explains more about this.
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04-13-2007, 10:50 AM
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link, I meant.
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04-13-2007, 10:51 AM
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Does anyone know how to get the Evil big three Credit Aeporting Agencies to take items off your report that are over seven years old?
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04-13-2007, 10:52 AM
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You may already know this, but alot of crooked collectors often change their name to throw consumers and enforcement agencies off of their trail, such as Bass and Associates were formerly Ellis Crosby and Associates, and other names that they had.
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04-13-2007, 10:55 AM
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Send them this letter, and they must provide full information about the debt to you:

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Sample debt validation letter. Do not pay a collection agency any money without first sending this letter. If you have any questions, please contact Anthony.

(Your name)
(Your address

Collection company name
Company address

(Date)

Re: Acct# 00000000

To whom it may concern:


This letter is being sent to you in response to a notice sent to me on March 8th, 2050. Please be advised that this is not a refusal to pay, but a notice sent pursuant to the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, 15 USC 1692g Sec. 809 (b) that your claim is disputed and validation is requested.

This is NOT a request for "verification" or proof of my mailing address, but a request for VALIDATION made pursuant to the above Title and Section. I respectfully request that your offices provide me with competent evidence that I have any legal obligation to pay you.

Please provide me with the following:

1. What the money you say I owe is for
2. Explain and show me how you calculated what you say I owe
3. Provide me with copies of any papers that show I agreed to pay what you say I owe
4. Provide a verification or copy of any judgment if applicable
5. Identify the original creditor
6. Prove the Statute of Limitations has not expired on this account
7. Show me that you are licensed to collect in my state
8. Provide me with your license numbers and Registered Agent

At this time I will also inform you that if your offices have reported invalidated information to any of the 3 major credit Bureaus (Equifax, Experion or TransUnion) this action might constitute fraud under both federal and State Laws. Due to this fact, if any negative mark is found on any of my credit reports by your company or the company that you represent, I will not hesitate in bringing legal action against you for the following:

1. Violation of the Fair Credit Reporting Act-reporting inaccurate information
2. Violation of the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act-continuing collection activity on a debt which has not been validated

Also during this validation period, if any action is taken which could be considered detrimental to any of my credit reports, I will consult with my legal counsel for suit. This includes listing of any information to credit reporting repository that could be inaccurate or invalidated or verifying an account as accurate when in fact there is no provided proof that it is.

REQUEST FOR CEASE AND DESIST OF CONTACT BY YOUR OFFICE: I would also like to request, in writing, no further contact, either in writing or telephone be made by your office to my home or to my place of employment, unless it is to provide validation or release of liability of the debt. If your offices attempt telephone communication with me, including but not limited to computer generated calls and calls or correspondence sent to or with third parties, it will be considered harassment and I will have no choice but to file suit.

It would be advisable that you assure that your records are in order before I am forced to take legal action. This is an attempt to correct your records; any information obtained shall be used for that purpose.

Thank you,

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