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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 3:35 pm 

I am so so so upset right now, I just want to scream, or cry or something. I don't know which.

This is in regard to the Arrow Financial Case I have been working on for what seems like forever. Skydver helped me get the default motion vacated. But the judge set another court date, and gave me until the 21st of April to respond to the original complaint. Well, I don't have the original complaint, so I sent a letter to the judge on the 25th of March and asked for a copy of the original complaint, as I could not answer it since I never received it to begin with.

Today, I got a letter from the Attorney of Arrow Financial! They filed a motion for another default judgment because I did not respond to the complaint by the 21st! The hell I didn't! I sent a letter to the judge, now I realize it wasn't a response to the complaint, but hell, I never had the original complaint! Now what in the heck am I suppose to do???????? This really is SO unfair! I can NOT afford an Attorney, and legal aid has a very long waiting list. I am in a position where I have no other choice but to represent myself, why can't the courts be a little more understanding when a person is in this type of situation. Those butt heads [Arrow Financial] NEVER validated the debt either! I am so screwed unless someone can help me figure out a way to file a motion to have this case dismissed with prejudice. Shocked

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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 3:53 pm 

howdy shazz, This sounds like a tough situation Sad is there a reason why you let the time lapse between march 25 and april 21 with no response from the judge? Why didnt you go down to the courthouse and get a copy of it?

Its a cat and mouse game~you have to be the cat and cover your bases. Not having a copy of the original complaint and allowing a month to go by from the time you requested doesnt sound like its going to hold up.Is that going to be your defense?

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why can't the courts be a little more understanding when a person is in this type of situation


What situation? that you didnt have your paperwork and the court shouldnt follow through with their processes?

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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 4:24 pm 

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howdy shazz, This sounds like a tough situation Sad is there a reason why you let the time lapse between march 25 and april 21 with no response from the judge? Why didnt you go down to the courthouse and get a copy of it?


In my own defense, I am rather new at this, I assumed by writing the Judge to let them know I did not have the original complaint, that they would send me a copy. But being the idiot I am, I failed to take responsibility into my own hands and go retrieve that summons myself. I know who you are, by the way. Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 4:27 pm 

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Its a cat and mouse game~you have to be the cat and cover your bases. Not having a copy of the original complaint and allowing a month to go by from the time you requested doesnt sound like its going to hold up.Is that going to be your defense?


They have never validated that debt as of today, and I have the proper paper work to prove it. Would that be a reason to ask for dismissal?

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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 4:28 pm 

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What situation? that you didnt have your paperwork and the court shouldnt follow through with their processes?

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No, that isn't the situation I was referring to.

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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 4:31 pm 

sorry shazz~ but i would never register with this sight so I wonder how you think you know who I'am Laughing actually I hang out on creditboards ~touche and good luck
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 4:34 pm 

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sorry shazz~ but i would never register with this sight so I wonder how you think you know who I'am Laughing actually I hang out on creditboards ~touche and good luck


I know you aren't registered here. There's something you said in one of the above posts that made me think you're someone I know. In fact, didn't I just speak to you last week? Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 5:00 pm 

Shazzers, please don't continue bantering back and forth with this @$$-clown! You really don't have to explain yourself to him at all. It is pretty obvious to me this person knows who you are and is taking great delight in tormenting you.

Guest, why don't you go back to the credit boards you hang out on then? Or are they mean to you there, because you're a addle brained moron, and you figured you could come over here and torment someone to make yourself feel a little better. What a cowardly little piss-ant you are by having to hide behind an anonymous "Guest" screen name. Just don't have the stones to register here, do you? Easier to be an anonymous rabble rouser, when you don't have to face us as an actual registered user?

Grow up, coward!

Shazzers the situation is what it is, you just have to deal with what is going on at the moment and try working through it. Don't waste time worrying over what you didn't do, and trying to justify yourself to some joker in this forum. I'm hoping Skydiver or JCEMT can offer you some advice as they seem pretty up on things like this, a lot more so than me.

In the meantime, I'm in your corner and you can count on me for support!

 
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 5:16 pm 

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Shazzers, please don't continue bantering back and forth with this @$$-clown! You really don't have to explain yourself to him at all. It is pretty obvious to me this person knows who you are and is taking great delight in tormenting you.


Ah well, I don't care, I'm pretty sure it's someone I talked to last week, there are reasons why I say this. He is saying the exact same thing he said to me in his office last week when he turned me down as a client. IF, it is the person I suspect it is. I told him about this website, may have been a mistake.

I just need to figure out how to handle the situation at hand, as you said. I could kick myself in the a$$ for not using my common sense. I have so much crap going on in my life right now, it's hard to deal with all these collectors, and try to do everything by the book. Crying or Very sad

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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 5:34 pm 

Shazzers, don't be upset when someone has nothing better to do with their life than attack others--don't bother responding, it's not worth it. I have been attacked by members and guests alike.

AS far as your case goes, If you have paperwork stating that this has never been validated, you may try that, won't hurt. Also, I know some attorneys here in town do a first visit free. I sounded pretty pityful one time and called one and told them about the bottom feeder I was working with.


I would try to go to the court house and see if you can get a copy of it, also, hopefully you kept a copy of the letter you sent the judge.

If the judge hasn't responded, you can go to their office and leave a note that you are following up with this and now they are doing another judgement,don't know if it will help, but won't hurt. I also did this one time and it helped me with something I was working on.

Good Luck--let us know what happens..KAren

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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 5:58 pm 

Oh yeah, I think I remember reading about your experience with that attorney in another thread. If he's using the same "catch phrases" he used on you when you met with him, he may also want to look into getting some new material.

Seems pretty unprofessional, if not unethical for him to come on here and behave that way. But he's probably one of those attorneys that thinks the rules and laws don't apply to him. He should be careful though, IP addresses can be traced, so he isn't as anonymous as he would like to think or hope he is.

 
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 6:24 pm 

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AS far as your case goes, If you have paperwork stating that this has never been validated, you may try that, won't hurt. Also, I know some attorneys here in town do a first visit free. I sounded pretty pityful one time and called one and told them about the bottom feeder I was working with.

Oh man, this is just so depressing. I will try the validation letter that was never replied to. I am also questioning the amount. I didn't think CA's could charge interest and fees, I thought they were required to have a license as a lender in order to charge interest and fees. I have been searching and searching in the Ohio revised codes trying to find some loop hole, or law that states CA's must have a lenders license in order to charge fees & interest but so far no luck.
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I would try to go to the court house and see if you can get a copy of it, also, hopefully you kept a copy of the letter you sent the judge.


Oh yes, I have a copy that I sent to the Judge. I have everything. (except the original complaint! lol)
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If the judge hasn't responded, you can go to their office and leave a note that you are following up with this and now they are doing another judgement,don't know if it will help, but won't hurt. I also did this one time and it helped me with something I was working on.

Should I go directly to the Judge's office? I am just stunned that this has happened. I honestly felt that letter I wrote to the Judge would cover me. Confused

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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 6:30 pm 

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Oh yeah, I think I remember reading about your experience with that attorney in another thread. If he's using the same "catch phrases" he used on you when you met with him, he may also want to look into getting some new material.

Seems pretty unprofessional, if not unethical for him to come on here and behave that way. But he's probably one of those attorneys that thinks the rules and laws don't apply to him. He should be careful though, IP addresses can be traced, so he isn't as anonymous as he would like to think or hope he is.


Well, all I can say is this, it was obvious he had a lot of time on his hands, because I was almost 45 mins late for my appt. I called and told them I was lost, etc., and also said to the secretary, if they wanted to reschedule I would understand, but she kept saying it would be fine. And there weren't anyone else waiting to be seen either. Oh well, wish I could find an Attorney to represent me on a contingency basis, I am positive there are violations on all of the CA's trying to collect from me. I just have to figure out how to exercise my rights in the correct manner to satisfy the court!

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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 6:38 pm 

OK, here is something interesting, I have been reading the FDCPA and am having trouble interpreting this particular passage:
A debt collector may not use unfair or unconscionable means to collect or attempt to collect any debt. Without limiting the general application of the foregoing, the following conduct is a violation of this section:
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(1) The collection of any amount (including any interest, fee, charge, or expense incidental to the principal obligation) unless such amount is expressly authorized by the agreement creating the debt or permitted by law.


Unless such amount is expressly authorized by the agreement creating the debt or permitted by law?
So, how do I find out if Arrow Financial is expressly permitted by law to continue tacking on all these fees and interest? Confused

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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 5:29 am 

To charge interest & fees they must have proof that original contract or credit card agreement allows them to do so. Some states also will not allow interest without a license from the state. Since they never validated I would go to court and explain to judge that you are a courthouse virgin who is trying to answer these allegations and also demand from judge that they either satisfy court that they have the proof to win their case on merits or dismiss it with prejudice.
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