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Replied on 08-17-2008, 12:08 PM
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Shill you can post non active links as long as they are not competitors of the site. Just omit www. and it will post as inactive.





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Replied on 08-17-2008, 06:48 PM
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You did not advise me for my own good. You advised me and others to promote your own agenda and in doing so you broke the rules you supposedly abide by namely you advised when you were not licensed to do so at least according to your interpretation of the code. As for me, I never represented myself in any manner that I feel was morally or legally wrong. Again I state if you have a problem with anything at all that I have ever posted then report it. If I am breaking some law or some code of ethic then report it. Until such time that someone with some real authority other than some anonymous poster that hides behind the veil of the internet says otherwise I will continue to offer help when I can based on what experiences I have had.

Apparently you have a problem with the owner of this site and you have formulated an agenda against said owner. I would suggest you work that out with whomever that is and the appropriate authorites. If they have done something illegal then collect your evidence and make it known. Frankly, I could care less what the owner of this site has done. I have found a wealth of information here posted by 100's of users that have no affiliation with said owner other than the use these forums and I will even admit that amongst your post you have provided some. It is a shame that it gets over shadow by your other thoughts.


They would have to have the invoices then. Generally JDBs do not have those or the contract or any evidence for that matter. They also do not have access to those. It would be wise to request those it sounds like when you request validation or respond to a complaint. Oh, am I allowed to say that forum monitor?


Haha. The guy built his own website and sold software that was suppose to solve the bankruptcy problems of the user. It was basically turbotax for bankruptcy. He deserved to get shut down. I certainly would not file bankruptcy without the aid of a lawyer as it would be quite difficult indeed and if somebody asked me to help them I would state the equivalent. You have taken a very long leap to get from that to items I have posted though.

Actually what I would like you to solve is how to shut down that scam site U.S. National Bank and affiliates or a couple of the other major scams that users pound this site every day of the week about. Put your energy to some good use for real.

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Sub: #35
Replied on 08-17-2008, 07:17 PM
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I have noticed that when he is confronted on a statement he changes his statement and tries to make it seem we missed understood what he said.

Maybe this is just one of the few educated trolls and sites like this are seriously impacting is income.

We have seen a lot of readers follow the advice on this site and don't think I have seen anyone come back and say that the judge nailed them for what was done.

Also what about Texas Lawyer he does not have a problem with this site. And Cajun seems to be well versed in the law.

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Sub: #36
Replied on 08-17-2008, 11:15 PM
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Um, right.

Dollars, you're right. You too cellular. I'm wrong.

Sorry.

If you ignore that pesky prosecutor's manual, it will go away.

Don't worry, be happy!




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Replied on 08-18-2008, 06:26 AM
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Hey sorry again about the name mixup Cellular if you saw it in a different thread.

To address your comment confrontednot:

The evidence is right on this site at your finger tips. I have made a lot of post primarily about debt negotiations and settlement outside of court. If you think you have a case against me for practicing law in CA, which is what the UPL covers, based on those posts then gather the evidence and present it to the state bar. I think even you are smart enough to know that your submission will not get out of their office assuming you have the courage to even make such a submission.

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Sub: #38
Replied on 08-18-2008, 09:44 AM
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Dollars,

You're still missing the point. There's a way to help people. But what's here is blatantly over the line. I'm sorry to say it, but that's the truth.

AFAIK, (and this isn't legal advice) the state bar only regulates lawyers. So unless you're licensed it probably won't care. Furthermore, very few such cases get prosecuted; there are much worse crimes out there obviously.

(The risk to this site's owner is another matter altogether, for lots of reasons I've explained in detail elsewhere.)

I regard this more as an ethical issue. Telling someone an experience you've had or general strategy or what questions to ask or where to find a particular resource are all one kind of thing; explaining a person's rights in a specific situation is quite another. Of course there's lots of grey area, but here there's really very little question: there's lots of legal advice in this forum, and again I'm sorry to see how much of it is simply incorrect and counter-productive.

Time permitting, next week I might prepare a substantive post to show something (like responding to a complaint) that people can do on their own, and perhaps serve as an example of how to help people in a forum like this without practicing law. Believe it or not, most lawyers do this all the time at cocktail parties, etc. We just want to do it responsibly.

Today, however, I've got an appellate brief to file.

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Replied on 08-18-2008, 09:51 AM
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OK....none of this is helping the OP with their issue. CALawyer...we appreciate your concern but you are taking the focus away from the purpose of this forum. I'm sure you need to be in court or golfing or something so go away and plead your case to someone who gives a sh@t!




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Sub: #40
Replied on 08-18-2008, 11:55 AM
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First, I better qualify this and state I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice since that is the rule you seem to be following. Second, I want to apologize to the OP because I think his thread has been hijacked.

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Dollars,

You're still missing the point. There's a way to help people. But what's here is blatantly over the line. I'm sorry to say it, but that's the truth.

AFAIK, (and this isn't legal advice) the state bar only regulates lawyers. So unless you're licensed it probably won't care. Furthermore, very few such cases get prosecuted; there are much worse crimes out there obviously.
In your opinion the information here is over the line and that is your opinion not the truth. Also, I find it ironic that you can give me and others advice and qualify it by saying it is not legal advice but when others do the same thing it somehow becomes unethical. Nice double standard you have going for yourself. I find it interesting how I asked you to find even one case that applied and you pulled some case out of your orifice that had nothing in common. FYI the state bar regulates all whom practice inside the state whether licensed or unlicensed. If you had a complaint it would be filed with the state bar of the state in which the complaint originated. They would then investigate and proceed if they deemed it worthy similar to how the state AG acts in criminal cases. I would think a licensed lawyer would know something so simple. You are licensed aren’t you? Furthermore, I know they won’t prosecute me for two reasons. First, I would not be prosecuted because I have done nothing worthy of prosecution. Second, I would not be prosecuted because as you said “there are much worse crimes out there obviously” so they wouldn’t waste their time but please feel free to file your complaint since I so blatantly broke the law in your opinion.

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(The risk to this site's owner is another matter altogether, for lots of reasons I've explained in detail elsewhere.)
That is your agenda here it seems. Again, take that up with the site owner and the appropriate authorities. I suspect you will make just about as much progress as your complaint against me to the bar if you so choose to file.

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I regard this more as an ethical issue. Telling someone an experience you've had or general strategy or what questions to ask or where to find a particular resource are all one kind of thing; explaining a person's rights in a specific situation is quite another. Of course there's lots of grey area, but here there's really very little question: there's lots of legal advice in this forum, and again I'm sorry to see how much of it is simply incorrect and counter-productive.

Time permitting, next week I might prepare a substantive post to show something (like responding to a complaint) that people can do on their own, and perhaps serve as an example of how to help people in a forum like this without practicing law. Believe it or not, most lawyers do this all the time at cocktail parties, etc. We just want to do it responsibly.

Today, however, I've got an appellate brief to file.

Signed,

Just Another Dime-a-Dozen Lawyer
If you took the time to prepare a decent post about responding to a complaint I would read it as well as many others that seek out this forum for help but please leave the condescending elitist view at the door. We commoners don’t mesh to well with you fancy lawyers and your fancy cocktail parties.

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Sub: #41
Replied on 08-18-2008, 07:39 PM
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Lots of assumptions. Most wrong.

Nascardevil, you refer to "the purpose of this forum." With all due respect, please consider that not all share the same purposes. I've explained this elsewhere in considerable detail. There is much, much more, all of it in the public domain. To learn the truth, you must look for it first.

Here's a question going to purposes: how does this site earn revenue to pay for the people answering the phones?

Best wishes as always.




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Replied on 08-18-2008, 07:57 PM
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Even I, a lowly warehouse worker, GOLF. Please PM me and we can discuss this 1 on 1.

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Replied on 08-18-2008, 08:22 PM
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Really?

(Why do I feel like a lamb to the slaughter?)




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Replied on 08-18-2008, 08:49 PM
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Really....love mint jamb




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Replied on 08-18-2008, 08:51 PM
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Hell....I'll even give you my cell




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Sub: #46
Replied on 08-18-2008, 08:59 PM
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You keep bringing up money and this site and eluding to some mystery post elsewhere where you expose it as its trueself. Then you talk about seeking the truth. Frankly it is a bunch of BS. It is obvious to me that one of the mods must have either harmed you in some manner or exposed you in some fraudlent activity of some manner and you are now trying to vent your frustrations. Either way I could really care less about your agenda. These forums are free to all people. None of the posters get paid as far as I am aware including me other than the bonus points and anybody can earn those even you. If you don't agree with the other products and services the site provides then don't use them. Basically if you don't like the store then don't buy the goods. I always advocate DYI and all the information for that is free here anyway and other sources on the net.




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Replied on 08-18-2008, 09:05 PM
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There is no way I would want that nut job calling me. Becareful, next thing you know he will be trying to get you to drink the koolaid.



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Sub: #48
Replied on 08-18-2008, 09:10 PM
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I believe the mystery post is here:

http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com...oup-bbb-1.html

It all goes back to him thinking there is something illegal going on with the owner of this site. And I agree with Dollars about that. If you think you have something you can prove, WhateverNameYouAreCurrentlyGoingBy, take it to the authorities. Since you are wasting your time here instead, one would have to wonder whether you really have all of the evidence that you purport to have.




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