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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:54 am Subject:

If it is a legitimate debt and it is managed/assigned to that CA I try to pay it. But at the same time don't roll over if they break the law, that is when the gauntlet gets thrown and I fight back.

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:05 am Subject:

Especially if you love your wife, please don't keep secrets. By keeping secrets or lying it could destroy or severely damage the trust in your relationship, and trust is the most important aspect that supports love.

hockeyman · Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:08 pm Subject:

I have given up on this one, he thinks he knows all.

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:28 pm Subject:

Well guys it's pretty obvious that there is "more" to this than just owing the money! It's a gambling problem... until that is owned up to and dealt with nothing more will be resolved. Agree??
Ang

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:52 pm Subject:

It's beginning to look that way..........

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:04 am Subject:

He says it only happened this one time due to a death in the family. I know when my husband died I did go on a binge...however when I faced up to my problem..I knew that was just an excuse. However...bottomline..I paid what I owed!

guest · Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:38 pm Subject: reply

It is not a discussion of a gambling problem or not. My wife is aware of the charges.

I dont want it to get on her credit report..at this point I am waiting to see if I get contacted by a collection agency.

Based on responses I am pretty sure I can fight and dispute, the credit card company records are on my side and it was billed with illegal 3rd party merchant codes.

Thanks to all who replied and Merry Christmas!

supreme goddess fyi · Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:22 am Subject:

pay everything you owe but not if it is something you forgot you owe follow posts of fyi on with Goldenblast page and then decide if u shud pay all like he sez haha hipocrite

hmmnnn · Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:59 am Subject:

where did fyi post disappear to? very strange indeed

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:54 am Subject:

Hanky should really chill out with his strange guest posting! Laughing

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:19 am Subject:

Guest...I really believe you have a reason to question the practices of gambling sites. They may be illegal...however does you credit card company back
knowing that you created these charges??? Merry Christmas to you too!!!

guest · Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:08 am Subject:

russell you slay me Razz

hockeyman · Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:03 am Subject:

I just found criminal implications that arose from this Wink

Actually several, but the most lenient being theft by deception if they decide to go state. If the FBI shows up, tell them the truth and if you fib to them, don't you dare lie to the Federal Prosecutors.

There's always the Fraud word involved.

The minute you called and had the charges removed, you went from being merely civil to the realm of criminal.

Congratulations guest, you've upgraded the field of law you severely violated.

This isn't just debt, it's fraud, theft by deception, and many more. The third party code is actually very often messed up by even legit companies, but even if the person sustains credit charges in ANY way, shape or form then denies them to the credit card company and has those services removed; it's called THEFT BY DECEPTION on a state level and CREDIT CARD FRAUD on the federal level (by the way, this isn't just me, it's also a good friend of mine who happens to work in the US attorney's office in NJ, the status of this person is actually 2nd in command from Chris Christie, who is the head of the USAG's office in NJ).

Good luck guest.

buck rogers · Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:28 pm Subject: umm Guest...

Why would you put yourself or your wife's name in a situation where derogatory reporting could happen?

Entities offshore are not necessarily regulated in the U.S. along with the credit bureaus (the 3 majors are worldwide) which means reporting could happen offshore then end up on U.S reporting with no recourse by the consumer.

Face the problem by looking in the mirror Wink

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:09 am Subject: confused

hockey man I have gambled a few times in Las Vegas and Indian gambling sites..put real money in and didn't cash out very often !..but as a layperson I have casually followed this subject with some interest because of the unlawful internet gambling act I read about in newspaper and financial publications ...I still couldn't possibly see how that could prevent anyone from gambling if they choose to do so online and have followed the topic since then ..I have also had emails from some senator I had never even heard of about an online card games forum he was defending..of course I sent them to spam..I have to believe what you have stated because you know the law ..but what about all the cases I have read about that determine gambling debts to be unenforceable in a court of law..and can you cite cases where FBI has arrested any online gamblers? Also I am wondering if gambling is legal in NJ and that is the difference? I have only heard of FBI arresting several on line gambling processors who are now out of business..of course my interest in this subject up to this point has been a search and google find..can you give us link to criminal implications you found?..it would be very interesting because I have read about cases of people who admitted to gambling and had the charges reversed because they shouldn't have been processed..people should not gamble with money they do not have..we all know that..when I have gambled at legal locals I took a certain amount that I knew I was going to lose..also I never considered gambling on line because at least here in the US the gambling sites are regulated and have laws to follow..I always thought online wagers were a given loss and a waste of time..how do you know if anyone ever wins anything and what the payouts actually are from whatever country they are operating from? All a waste of money playing in this field of odds I always thought..but I was thinking guest should contact the FBI instead of trying to avoid them ..and waiting to be arrested..and inform them of someone trying to collect on internet gambling debts and name of company who violated US law by processing the transactions..wouldn't this be like a drug dealer trying to take you to court on a debt you didn't pay?..again I am just a layperson..and am offering comments from what I have read..not experienced..but please give link to criminal implications because it would probably change many attitudes and opinions here mine among them!

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:34 am Subject: sorry too long of post!

hockey man I think my basic question is this..if you go to sight #a "win millions of bucks.com"..gamble at this sight with whatever funds they process(even though it it is illegal for them to accept U.S. transactions)..then you get a bill which states you made purchases from unknown sight #b..clothes phone bills whatever..you fill out fraud report that you didn't purchase clothes phone bill whatever you dispute charges of clothes phone bill whatever....a collection company might contact you later saying you owe $ to another unknown company to you #C....you say you have never heard of them and don't owe a dime and ask them to validate...and the FBI will show up on your doorstep? Again can you explain to a layperson who doesn't have your education in law..how this is happening? thanks hockey I am humbly awaiting your response because I am feeling really stupid here to have assumed this shouldn't happen to anyone here in America..

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