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Replied on 06-30-2007, 01:22 PM
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I've just received a letter in the mail as well from BCR. I've read all of the blogs here. I for a fact know I owe no debts to Cingular or AT&T. I started this service before I deployed to Iraq last year. I have kept all payments current and I know this for a fact(I keep all documentation). If, in fact, there were any charges to my account it would have reflected on my bill. We all know that if someone purchases any equipment or had any charges of service the bill will reflect these payments first and foremost. I've been dealing with creditors for a long time. Not because I owe outstanding debts, but because I like to keep up with my credit info.

I know how the system works. I know if there is any debts owed to a company
1.) The company will make the consumer aware of that debt
2.)After about 30 - 60 days that company will turn the matter over to an inside collection department who will attempt to collect that debt.
3.)After 90 days or more, it will be turned over to an outside collection agency.

Looks like a couple of steps have been skipped here in this case and this not only suspicious, but stinks to hell(excuse the language). And to add to that. If this company was collecting a debt from a wireless company regarding someone's account, there should be an actual cell phone # included. I see an erroneous "Original Creditor Account" number was included that is completely wrong. I have seen a collection letter regarding a cell phone company before. I once worked at one.

So, I will be calling Cingular on Monday. If there were any debts owed to them, they WILL know of it. And I know there is no bebts. After confirming that, I will be contacting BCR, if we can't resolve the issue, then, my next step is to check my credit report. If the debt has made it this far I should have something on my credit report that reflects it. And if, indeed, it IS or not on my credit report, I will be taking further legal action to resolve the issue anyways. There has been a mistake somewhere, some identification theft, or just a plain ol scam. (I think its #3.)

Oh, by the way. I've been doing a little research on this matter.... The letter I received from George Gustafson (#888-714-233, I've found some quite interesting info. Does seem like there is a scam going on. I will find out Monday.

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Sub: #178 BCR and ATT
Replied on 07-05-2007, 06:32 PM
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I can't seem t find BCR address anyware on the internet. We have had Primeco, AT&T, Cingular now AT&T again for over 12 years, but in thelast year I've been getting harrassing calls as early as 8:00 a.m. to as late as 9:00 p.m. about a $200+ bill and I keep trying to expalain to them that we don't owne a bill and if we didi would we be able to have the service now (they don't seem to grasp that logic). What I think a letter writing campaign to your attorney generals of your state and make them aware of the laws BCR is breaking re: collections.
I can't sedn them a cease and desisit letter until I find the address. HELP!!!!

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Sub: #179 BCR
Replied on 07-10-2007, 09:06 PM
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Wow and here we are in the middle of 2007 and these people are still pulling the same BS. I am now having the same problem as alot of you. BCR calles me one day and said I owed AT&T. It took me by suprize as I have never had AT&T as a phone provider. When I asked for what they informed me that it was a cell phone bill from Cingular in 2005. I had not recieved a letter from BCR or Cingular for the last year and a half and now here they are calling me expecting me to just fess up with money. I told them to send me a collection letter so I have something in writing with their letter head on it and that they would not get paid until I get the letter and my 30 days to reply. I have recieved no letter as of yet but they call at least twice a day with some long number showing up on my caller ID. I have talked to them several times and they have clamed to have sent me the letter. My reply to that was "Then you should have my signiture on the certified delevery reciept so send me a copy of that. THey have offered to fax it to me and I have given them my fax number but then the guy backed down and didn't want to fax it and tole me to contact AT&T first. It is clear that BCR is running a scam and are not legit. I will be contacting my AG and BBB as well as AT&T.

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Sub: #180 BCR calls
Replied on 07-15-2007, 01:31 PM
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I keep getting these calls from BCR which I haven't answered, tried to call them back and it says their vm is full and cannot even leave them a message. I have always paid every bill I have and don't know what in the world they would be calling me about. Can someone explain that one to me please?

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Sub: #181 BCR called the wrong guy
Replied on 07-17-2007, 06:10 PM
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I had a missed call from BCR earlier today and called them back, after googling the phone number. After giving them my cell number which they already had, the guy tried to coax my name from me, which I refused, telling him that he had contacted me in the first place and that I wanted to know why. He would not tell me, though he asked if I was "kevin". Again, I told him I wouldn't tell him my name and asked why he called me. He then said "don't play games with me pal", whereupon i told him not to mess with me. He very rudely told me not to waste his time, so I told him to F&%* himself.

I want to know if I am actually liable for something or if this is a scam. I absolutely do not want to engage with anyone from that enterprise though. I had considered checking my credit reports, though I would think if they are contacting me for something legit, it has yet to find its way onto my credit report, seeing as they typically send threatening letters before doing that.

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks

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Sub: #182 bcr
Replied on 07-19-2007, 07:32 PM
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Can you believe the collections mgr statement. My pop was right. There is an ass for every seat.

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Replied on 07-19-2007, 08:14 PM
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If the collector is legit, a letter must be sent to you within 5 days of the first communication, stating the original creditor and the amount allegedly owed. Some collectors, such as Cavalry Portfolio, illegally list the item on your credit report straightaway, and then contact you, whether it's really your debt or not.

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Sub: #184 thought it was funny
Replied on 07-26-2007, 07:14 PM
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so yeah this same piece of crap company has been calling my parents house every day at least 4-6 times a day asking for me....well im deployed to iraq. and so i decided to give these scumbags a call and let them know that i have never had a bill i havent paid they tell me oh yes you do with cingular wireless...i said ok first i've never used cingular second im in iraq buddy...he simply asked when do you get back from deployment told him in october and he hung up. wow...what a way to treat someone fighting for you freedom to harrass people over the phone and waking them up. bunch of low life losers.

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Sub: #185 BCR
Replied on 07-27-2007, 03:53 PM
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This company has started to send my company letters. I'm accounts payable, and when I got the letter saying our AT&T formerly Cingular Wireless account went to collections, I was shocked--as we have never had an account with Cingular. And we DO have 3 AT&T accounts, but even when we're 1 week past due, I get a notice in the mail. All of our accounts with AT&T are current. So, I asked our CEO about it, and she confirmed: no such account.

To make a long story short, they're giving me the run-around and it's starting to smell more and more like a scam everyday!

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Sub: #186 Irrating phone calls and rude people
Replied on 07-30-2007, 06:38 PM
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I OWE MONEY TO NO ONE OR ANY COMPANY!!!!!!

I have gotten many call from BCR and they are very rude on the phone. They will not tell me what the want and get very irrated at me. I try to talk to them but they do not want to and hang the phone up on me. This is a very BAD COMPANY and should be put out of business!!!!!!!

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Sub: #187
Replied on 08-03-2007, 02:33 PM
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T mobile seems to be the issue for most of these post. We left T mobile 6 yrs ago. Went to cingular, took our number with us. T mobile claimed we still owed them 123. dollars. They sent the bill to us to close the account, they cashed our check that amount. Done deal until the following year. Collection agency called for the 123. dollars. I sent copy of bill & cancelled check. They stopped calling. New agency started calling 7 mos later. We have to repeat this process, everytime T mobil gets a new collection agency. T mobil is more than a problem, they dont know why I am calling them.
I will never even consider T mobile. I tell everyone I talk to about the crappy service and there inability to fix there problem.

Avoid T mobile..... T mobile

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Replied on 08-06-2007, 01:52 PM
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complete a**holes they are. I had a guy tell me I owed money from 2003 yet cingular somehow left my cell service active till 2005 when i switched to verizon...yeah ok

then he said that cause cingular didn't know i was in collections yet they are the ones who put me there... yeah ok

so i called AT&T (bought out cingular) and payed the entire debt on my CC. easy and quick

next week i'm still getting calls from bcr saying i owe them money and when i say i payed att&t already i was called a lier. so i secretly called at&t on 1 line while arguing with the GED $8/hour white trash from BCR on the other line. Conferenceing in the ATT rep saying my account has been payed in full and has a zero balence right to the a**hole who not 30 seconds ago called me a liar was gold... yeah he hung up but not before i got in a big "that's what IF'n though a**hole"

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Sub: #189 collector is full of it
Replied on 08-26-2007, 07:26 AM
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You call homes when you're not even sure if you have the person you're looking for - this is harassment!

You don't leave detailed information about what the hell it is you're looking for - so we don't even know how to respond.

The number you leave to call back dumps into a voice mailbox that is full - meaning we have to call during business hrs to speak to a rude collector who refuses to believe I'm not the person you're looking for!! (So spare us the, "just tell us and we'll leave you alone" crap).

If you're so kind and considerate Mr Collector, then why don't you post "your" home number so we can call "your" house each day and clear things up? You practice harassment, your callers are rude and nasty, and your facts are screwed up.

I've begun the process of logging your harassing/rude calls (in my state I can record phone calls) and support any suit directed at your organization.

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Sub: #190 BCR Calls
Replied on 09-11-2007, 01:16 PM
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Folks, if you get a call from this agency, DEMAND a written statement as to what they are trying to collect. By law they must provide it.

And you can also go to Ebay, Cingular, ATT, etc. websites, and send them a letter telling them what's happening (usually under "contact us.") If BCR is dealing in fradulent activity, the respective companies will want to know. You may get a response telling you to "send a letter to...." which will get you to the proper department, or your email may be directed to the correct department. Each company is different.

Thsy just called my house too....no message left, and I don't answer calls if I don't know who is calling and / or why!

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Sub: #191 grrr
Replied on 09-19-2007, 08:27 AM
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I just got off the phone with BCR. This after the 112th call so far. just like most of you, my phone has been ringing off the hook. I have called the # back numerous times thinking I owed someone, wanting to pay my debt and I always get the same answer, "who do we ask for when we call"(to which I reply no one because it's always an automated system that calls me, "what debt do you owe" ( to which I reply nothing that I can think of. Finally today I reached a nice lady (for the first time ever) who told me she would take my number to the dialing room and have the people take my number out of the system. Thank GOD , if she really does this , I will be sooooo happy! good luck guys!

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Replied on 09-19-2007, 10:33 PM
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i worked for the bureau of collection recovery without going in to too much detail i will explain some thing to you guys


1. it is required by law for a collection agency to give the "debtor" 30 to submit any disputes in WRITING or the debt will be valid and collected upon.

2. the letters that are sent out are done so by a outside company that the agency hires to do that (it takes to much time and money for the agency to do it themself's)

3. belive me i am not trying to be a smart a$$ so dont start yelling at me but if people would just take care of their bills in a timely manner they wouldnt have to worry about collection agencys "harassing "them




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