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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:44 am Subject:

And the same question could be asked about you, why should people believe what you post? We choose to believe what we want to believe. Perhaps not all posts are accurate or truthful, and that may be because somebody wants to have fun at another's expense or to just "jump on the band wagon". However, I don't believe that all posts are inaccurate or dishonest.

Guest · Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:27 am Subject:

Common sense would dictate that when 99% of the people here have the same experiences, that 1% percent stands alone and would seem like the one not telling the truth wouldn't you say!

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:31 am Subject:

Yes, I would.

Intimidated · Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:56 am Subject:

Absolutely! Why can't they get that.

GTA Collector · Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:58 am Subject:

No. Many of the people that have posted here use several different names. Although it may appear that there are tons and tons of people posting bad experiences, it's actually only a fraction of that. The agency that I work for gets stuff like this said about it all the time, but I know that most of the stuff posted about the company I work for is not true. I don't want to say who I work for, I'm still employed by them. I can read through the entire forum, but there's not proof that anything is truly being done illegally. I just don't understand, that's all.

Guest1 · Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:41 am Subject:

I guess you would have had to endure talking to them on the phone to understand where we are all coming from.

Fortunately for you, you haven't - consider yourself lucky!

Question · Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:24 pm Subject:

I tried logging on to the Paul Kuperstein website but it seems to not be working.

Is anyone else having problems? I am sure there is more than one page there and that is all I am able to see.

Thanks.

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:03 pm Subject:

I don't agree that many of the posts are by the same person under a different name. I say this because you can tell when somebody is the same person going by a different name by the way they communicate in their writing styles, you can change your name but it is difficult to change your writing style unless you are very aware and make an effort to do so. Some people write the same way they talk, if that makes sense.

GTA Collector · Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:41 pm Subject:

I disagree, I know the stuff posted about the company I work for is wrong most of the time. That's why I question what's true and not ture about the stuff poster here.
My IQ is only average, but even I could change 'my writing style' pretending to be someone I'm not.
In my experience, people get mad and they say things that aren't necessarily the truth.

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:51 pm Subject:

I can see your point GTA, sometimes people can distort the truth when they are under alot of stress, not that the truth is distorted, but at the time, due to the circumstances, they hear what they want to hear or miss important information relayed to them. I think it is safe to say that most of us have been in a situation that our emotions prevented us from fully understanding what was going on. It isn't intentional, and I don't believe most people here intentionally tell a lie, I don't even think they lie, I think it is the truth as they experienced it, we weren't there, we didn't hear the conversation, so it isn't fair to pass judgement or to assume what we think happened with no evidence.

The Junk · Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 1:48 am Subject: A Mister Sargeant

I too have been getting calls from these people. The problem is - they're not for me. A Mister Sargeant (Stephen, from what their automated system says) calls and asks for a guy that knew from work three years ago! I left a message tonight indicating that fact, and directing them to cease and desist from all contact with me. It might be fun to see what comes of that.

GTA Collector · Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:09 am Subject:

Hello 'The Junk', if you are being contacted it's because the person Mr. Sargeant is looking for used you on his application for a payday loan as a reference. No need to get all excited, just contact Mr. Sargeant and let him know that you don't know where or how to contact this person. Simple. Why do you all try to make something out of nothing?

GTA Collector · Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:23 am Subject:

Sorry everyone, just one more thing. It's post from people like 'The Junk' that really bother me. There's absolutely nothing wrong with what Mr. Sargeant did yet this person felt it necessary to not only look up this forum but type something of absolutely no relevance.
If something was done wrong, I'm the first one to back you up.

Janet · Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:24 am Subject:

The Junk the problem is that most debtors will answer the phone and say they are someone else and that the person they are looking for no longer lives there. The debtors know that numerious people are looking for them so they pretend to not live there or work there hoping that the people will give up looking for them. And chances are the debtor left your name as a reference. You may or may not be the debtor. But the lies that we here from debtor are amazing. I'll give you an example. One of the guy called a debtor I was in the room they said who they were calling from and that they said that the money had to be sent. The debtor hung up phoned her Mom who happen to call me. She said that the man was very mean to her daughter and that her daughter was now in labor and being rushed by ambulance to the hospital. not five minutes had pasted between calls. I then said I would take care of this matter with her daughter and in turn said could you call her right now and gave me the number. I in turn said but wouldn't it be hard to call her in the ambulance. My point is that debtor do whatever they have to get out of debt. Including have there parents lie for them. I bought my children up to be responsible and I would not lie for them. This was just a small guilt. I have people tell me that their child died last week and they just can't handle the pressure. I call back and they answer the phone laughing. I find this a little sick. I have heard alot of things and alot of bull from debtors. I have also been called alot of names, threatened with sexual and physical abuse. In detail of what they will do to my body. I understand that when you are in a bad situtation that its very upsetting when someone starts speaking to you firmly and to the point that you get upset because you just don't know where the money is going to come from. I understand all of this. But don't make a mountain out of a mole hill. I can give you examples how people change the truth. We tell debtors that we will send a bailif out to serve them papers. They in turn say that we said that they are going to jail. The truth get a little stretched. But the receptionist and I get I'm coming there to slit yoour throat, I will follow you home and do .... and ... your butt. Your are nothing but a ...... and details of what they are going to do to are bodys and how are familys will find us. I find this really disgusting and sick.

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:32 am Subject:

I fully agree that if you owe a debt and treat a debt collector like crap, you are a bad person. You need to honor your debt and pay it in full.

Janet, I would also like to hear you state that there are many bad debt collectors out there that lie and threaten in an attempt to collect a debt and go outside the law in this attempt, even to the point of not ceasing contact when proof has been sent that they have an incorrect phone number or that the debt has been satisfied.

Guest · Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:10 am Subject:

Janet, how many times to people have to repeat for you that your collegues have threatened them???!!! It is unbelievable how you continue to deny any wrong doings from your firm and try and make people feel sorry for you. Your firm DOES threaten people whether you like to admit it or not and believe me 99% of the people here KNOW THAT FOR A FACT despite your damage control. You will never be able to convince the people that have been harrassed by your collegues otherwise - EVER because it DOES happen!!!!!

Believe what you want, believe that we are all liars if its makes you feel better about the career choice YOU made. If you are being threatened as you say, why would you want to continue that career? Your choice. Doesn't sound right to me.

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