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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:39 am Subject:

I would LOVE to hear any conversation anyone has recorded when speaking with any employee of Liability Solutions, The Law Offfice or Paul Kupferstein and Assoc.

If you have something, post it. If you don't want to post it, PM me and I'll post it.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:48 am Subject:

Just curious Another Guest seeing as you never really answered my question, why such intense interest in what is on the tape. People have written on this forum and on Paul Kuperstein's forum what they were verbally harrassed with. Why do you need to know word for word what was stated?

Can you answer that?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:26 am Subject:

someone might deem something as harassing or ignorant when it really isn't. If they said that you had a time period in which to pay and you got rude they might get firm and say that they will call your work place or such. You could call that harrasing you. yet they have the right to call whom you left as references. I would personally call someone that was loud and not letting me get a word in edge wise. harrassing but it not. I would tell my spouse that this really rude man called me then he would get mad and place a call that would end up being rude probably on both ends. So maybe you so place the taped message on here both sides of the conversation including your aggressive words and comment as well as those from the person who called you. It would clear up everybodys questions. But then again you coould be all talk no show??????
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:08 pm Subject: Response to GTA Collector and Janet

Sorry if you think my previous post was irrelevant - but it very much is. I do agree with you the true problem is my "friend" (let's say I don't think so much of him anymore) giving my name and number with some loan company, but my posted beef was with the sheer number of calls I have received from "Mr Sergeant", and the tone and demeanor he showed in those calls.
Let's get one think straight: I believe that you have been lied to by debtors. I don't care. If someone is calling -my- home, and I tell think I'm not that person, and direct them not to call back, I expect them not to call back. I don't care that I know that person - I freely admit that I did; my knowing that person does not entitle you to harass me.
Incidentally, (to be fair, which is something you debt collectors might have a hard time comprehending)) since I left my message, I have not been called back. That's a good thing, and as long as I am not contacted back, I'll be happy.
Also, in all fairness (see above), I should note that this animosity is borne from a different collection agency. I can't remember the agencies name or the woman's name, but about a year and a half ago I was getting daily calls about a person that I didn't even know (unlike my current scenario). When I told that lady I wasn't that person and didn't know them, she screamed at me that I was a liar, and I should grow up and be a man and pay my debts.
Now ask yourself this, GTA Collector: since I was -not- the debtor (and if you don't believe me, as is probably your inclination, then just pretend for the purposes of this exercise), what in the sweet name of Kris Kristofferson gave her the right to yell at me? What gave her the right to insult me? You can argue that she was really insulting the debtor, but it -my- ears that were ringing.
So it is that when I get a call about another debt that is not mine, I steel myself for the worst. And if you think this post is irrelevant, and I have no right posting it: suck it up, 'cause here it is.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:47 pm Subject:

Sorry to disappoint you "Guest" / "Another Guest", I can honestly say that I was not rude on the taped call (believe what you want, I really don't care). I just directed simple questions such as provide me with validation to prove this debt is actually real because I don't ever recall it or heard of the place Mr. David quoted and low and behold, this Mr. David went to town on just that.

I am not here to satisfy your rather strange curiosity as to what is on the tape. You can stew on that.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:28 pm Subject:

It could be that they can not post the tape, if it is going to be used as evidence against a company or person, I would not post it.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:01 pm Subject:

"It would clear up everybodys questions".

You seem to be the only one "Guest" / "Another Guest" questioning what was on the tape - clearing up your question's is the only thing you are concerned with which is strange in itself the way you come across. It's still rather strange how badly you want to know what is on the tape - makes one wonder what your hidden agenda is. I could simply say because you have been so rude, it's none of your business. Think what you will - apparently you do but you won't get any satisfaction from me - you seem not trustworthy which is not shocking by your postings.

All I know is the harrassment on that tape is completely once sided and I am content knowing that it was not me. Time will tell, believe what you want and say what you want - your opinion doesn't matter to me one bit.

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Either way, I believe you are correct Steelers1 from what I have been informed of.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:43 pm Subject:

What ever, if I bashed the law office you'd all be cheering me on, but I have a question for one of you guys and I'm the bad guy. I don't really care, I was just curious.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:15 pm Subject:

Is Guest arguing with him/herself? If you think some of the Guest post are from me they're not.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:19 pm Subject:

I know I am now confused. Who is Who?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 2:24 pm Subject:

Who's on first.

It's a shame no one has the guts to actually register a username.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 2:25 pm Subject:

No, I thought who was on second. Or was that third?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:50 pm Subject: THIS TAPE

If you have a tape why dont you use that to take
this office down.?

This is what we have been waiting for, something that
could help us take this office down.

Seriously if you do use it. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:52 pm Subject:

Liability Solutions Inc. is not a Collection Agency. collection agencies are typically made up of collectors that are often inexperienced and under paid. Your files are often over worked and rotated frequently among several collectors, omitting crucial details and ultimately ending with poor collection results. Many debtors know the only recourse they have is to make repeated phone calls with empty threats.

It is easy to see why our approach is considerably more effective. We out perform all conventional forms of collection often recovering accounts that other organizations consider irretrievable.

Liability Solutions Inc. has more than twenty years of experience in collection and litigation and is pleased to offer our services throughout both Canada and the United States.

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We are committed to developing mutually beneficial relationships, and are confident that Liability Solutions Inc. can become a trusted business partner. We will positively affect your bottom line and add value to your organization through our dedicated recovery efforts.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:54 pm Subject:

Cash flow problems, NSF cheques, outstanding invoices, declined and/or charged back credit cards and untraceable debtors. Many companies are plagued with problems in these areas. It leaves you in a difficult position to not only deal with the cash flow issues but also the issue of maintaining your customer base. Your company must focus on remaining competitive in an ever-changing business world.

If you chose to resort to the standard collection agency you will find your company left with untrained collectors engaging in the practice of collecting your outstanding receivables and unfamiliar with the law. Due to the "revolving door syndrome" at most collection agencies your files will change hands frequently among several collectors, thus omitting important details and ending with poor collection results.

The bottom line is simple, services and/or products are being supplied on demand all over the world, and in order for any business to achieve the highest competitive sales market, the funds must be recovered. This procedure does not include abusive and/or harassing phone calls, in fact in many cases, clients prefer to rebuild the relationship for future business opportunities

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:54 pm Subject:

When you consider the quality of Liability Solutions Inc. services and the alternatives available, you will discover that we turn problems into profits. Give us 60 days, we guarantee you will see the difference. The quality will be there, your cash flow will be increased, and you will have peace of mind in knowing that the job is being done well.

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