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Well...I was still paying, just paid last month...see my previous notes posted here. I filed a complaint with the BBB & am slowly making other complaints. I just faxed them a notice to cancel my agreement with them & all I received back was an email that they received my cancellation notice & they would be mailing something in the mail for me to fill out & send back to them. If they take something out this month...I will be pissed!
I think before they do this, I'll be closing my bank account.

I don't know why it didn't stay on my last post, but here it is.
http://www.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp

AmyF,
Just go to your bank and cancel the auto withdrawls. I told my bank my situation and they did not charge me anything.

All,
Has anyone else out there put a lein on her house. If so who did you contact in AZ.

Here is the people I contacted for the lien, they are in Phoenix on McDowell Rd the company is called Dar-Liens Svc call them, ask what they need, I gave them my cancellation notice, my contract, to name a couple, better hurry though I heard their house was in escrow, if you miss this one you can put a lien on the new house but may take a while to get the money back, this is a sure thing at closing, didnt put the # in not sure if allowed have it if its ok but I think it was about $60

Guest,
Thank you. I on it

Okay, here's an update. Still impossible to reach anyone at RMP via phone or email. But I spoke with Ms. Stanton's lawyer Michael Gerity. Here is what follows after I asked how to get in touch with his client...

M. Gerity:Can you please let me know the exact amount of the reimbursement you are seeking? The problem my clients are facing is that they have a number of clients that were included in an agreement with the licensing body in Arizona that must be refunded first. Once those are completed, they can turn to other refunds. Please let me know the amount, and I will contact my client to see if I can get an approximate timeframe.

Citykid: Mr. Gerity, Risk Management Partners has until Sept 23 of 2005 to pay back all AZ residents. Below is a press release from the Arizona State Banking Department and notice a quote from RMP stating that they already paid off all Arizona clients. Either way, the clients should be paid in full seeing how it is way past Sept 23rd.

STATE BANKING DEPARTMENT
RICHARD C. HOUSEWORTH JANET NAPOLITANO
SUPERINTENDENT OF BANKS GOVERNOR
Press Release
Arizona State Banking Department issues final order for unlicensed debt management activity. Miracle Management consents to restitution and civil money penalty. The Superintendent of Banks, Arizona State Banking Department, has issued a final order requiring Miracle Management, Hyla Stanton and Risk Management Partners to immediately stop doing business in Arizona and to pay $210,646.66 in restitution and civil money penalties for operating an unlicensed debt management company in Arizona. The company has consented to the order. While the company claims that the refunds have already been sent to the former clients, the company has until September 23 to prove that all refunds have been paid. If the company cannot do so, under the terms of the order, the civil money penalty will increase to $50,000. If the company fails to comply with the terms of the order to refund the amounts agreed to, the Department will pursue a Judgment in Superior Court.

M. Gerity: Just goes to show you that you cannot trust what you see on the internet. The Arizona residents were refunded by that date. There is an even longer list of non-residents that are to be refunded as well, and we are under an extension of time to complete those refunds. So, as I stated before, my clients are currently handling those refunds, and will begin on any non-listed clients as soon as possible thereafter.

Citykid,, that is very interesting. I got an email from arizona banking comm saying that i need to file with nevada since they have taken care of the arizona part of it. I called them and they sent me a complaint form via email to send but don't know how much they can help since i am out of state. I told her that i paid them in arizona but i am sending it in to her and she is going to try to do what she can. How many companies does this lady have?i have emailed her a hundred times with no answer to any of them. She emailed me about a month ago and said that she would send my money to me . I talked to her on the phone about 5 weeks ago and she promised to send it to me but guess what she hasn't surprise surprise huh. I am totally fed up with her lies and the companies lies.

Checking out lawyers of this company to see how to go about getting my money back and for screwing up my credit will update when i get some good news on this matter.

citykid. in the email that i got form the arizona banking commissioner he stated that us (out of staters) should file with the federal trade commissioner since they have settle all debts with mmg. so who is lieing the lawyer of the banking commission. i don't think the banking commission would tell me something that is untrue do you" and the lawyer stated about not believing what's on the internet what about his client that stated she would refund anyone who contacted her personally.

Yeah, your guess is as good as mine.

no one is liening the lawyer of the banking commission they are liening the residential property of the Stanton's that is on the market for $1.1 million who own mmg to insure they get their money one way or another

The company is not just Chris Stanton and Myself, this is a company of MANY employees, and I do answer to someone, My attorney. If you clients need any information, please address my attorney, as stated previously, we are refunding people as fast as possible, and we look forward to all of you getting ON WITH YOUR LIFE!!! YOUR GOSSIP BOARD is REALLY bad for all of your PSYCHE!! Dont you realize that like myself, reading this BLOG has made me have lack of sleep, anxiety, and has landed me under dr's orders. CALL MY ATTNY!!! STOP SPREADING GOSSIP AND PROPAGANDA!! H.S.

I already have a lien on my home! Sorry!!!

Hi, I too am in the same boat as you. Did they double draft your account in June like they did me? I suffered about 200.00 of NSF charges... Then I received a call about a month later from one of my creditors... they were going to garnish my wages. NONE of my creditors had ever been contacted or had their calls returned by miracle management group... and I had been paying them religiously every month for a year. Is there a class action suit taking place? If so, let me know how I can participate and what have you done thus far to get your money refunded? I have faxed them at their request the letter to terminate our contract. I ended up having to file for bankruptcy to keep my creditors from garnishing my wages. I got in this position because of a divorce, my ex husband was unemployed so I ended up with ALL of our debt... tell me how you have received your refunds.

Thanks,

Hyla, the "nemesis"
Now we know you are reading this site and living in your million dollar home traveling all over the world on everyones money, maybe you have the slightest idea how the people feel on this site, the pain and frustration brought on by stress of not being able to pay their bills, forced bankrupcy and their credit ruined further. Rather than drag this out any further and continue the gossip that seems to be the truth, immediately pay all the people their money out of their trust accounts set up by your company in the names of each individual and everyone will get off your back. Surely, the money is banked in the trusts like contracted is it not? Or is that why you are paying out in "the order canceled"? There may be many employees, but you are the President and owner and the buck stops with YOU, but as a question who do you answer to so we can write them? Oh, who is your doctor so we can ask him to write a prescription to have you return all the money to everyone and ease your mind and allow you sleep. Why does anyone want to call your attorney, that makes you pay him the money all the people are trying to get back.
Is anyone still paying, stop paying, demand your money back, start suits, notify the FTC about these people, if enough complain action will be taken.

Hyla,
Please answer the following: Is there liquid cash available to immediately refund all mmg/rmp clients? If so, how and where is this money held? If not, please explain what happened to the money and what you are doing to replace it. In addition, if I could be so bold to point out that you should be answering to your clients (to whom you have a fiduciary responsiblity) and not your attorney (he is your advisor, not your boss).

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