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called tonight about 5:30 EST...he did mention the amount it is minus the retainer fee...but more than the amount Hyla and I discussed earlier...i will take it if i get it and yes I WILL NOT BELIEVE IT UNTIL I SEE IT!!!

schim21, I cancelled on 2/01/05 but was told in april that my cancellation letter had been lost. I spoke with "mike" from customer service and he told me he would send me out a cancellation letter to sign and that he would make sure it was processed ASAP.. I filed bankruptcy in the middle of May and I waited patiently for my refund, and then came july, and thats when I got fed-up and filed a complaint with the BBB, then in september is when I got the letter stating that they were waiting on my power of attorney letter ect and to rest assured my refund would go out as soon as all was verified.. I was discharged from my bankruptcy at the end of july.. I have been waiting on my refund for nearly a year.. I even cancelled before I new what had happend with this company.. I was only in the program for about 7 months...I cancelled because I was summoned three times by my creditors and was worried that they were going to start garnishing my wages. When I received the summons MMG told me to do my best to obtain the TOTAL FUNDS as soon as possible so that they can take care of all my creditors before this happens again.. That was what really got me ticked off, I even spoke to Hyla and she pretty much told me my only option was to file bankruptcy.. I told her then why the heck was I contacted from her company and made to spend all this crap load of money on a program that can't even help me in the first place and that I would end up having to pay back every penny that I owed my creditors from the very beginning, So what money was I suppose to save from their program???NOTHING!!!Just some free money for them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope you are really able to get your check as tomarrow will be 2 months short of year for me...

The Arizona Banking Commission is only interested in protecting Arizona residents. They have demanded that MMG/RMP pay Arizona residents all of their money "plus" any and all fees charged. Since it is obvious that MMG/RMP has little resources there will be little or nothing left to pay out-of-state clients. Furthermore the "huge fine" imposed on MMG was paid with our money. They allow MMG to continue in business in violation of Arizona state law. They stated in their own consent order that the Nevada company is a front, as does the Nevada authorities, so MMG has violated the consent order. Now I read on this blog that they can pay only Arizona residents. If and when FTC gets involved they will shut her down and distribute the money evenly.

I don't get it, retainer fee? All I see in my contract is the $250 cancellation fee, which, by the way, Hyla said was gratas. But I doubt she'll keep her word on that to me. I have heard nothing from Hyla or Mike.

I received emails from Hyla, take a look:

> I need to know when I will receive my full refund (all fees included), acc#5327.

You will not be receiving all fees, per your signed agreement with RMP. Your refund total is $1000.00, and I will need to see your documents in the file to see if everything is completed before I can release funds. I will research this and confer with the accounting dept., to see if this can be released promptly. I will need to inform you that I will
not be answering any work related emails on any other medium other than this email address, all others will be unread and deleated, I apologise if this increases your exsisting frustration, I hope you have a great
day.

Hyla Stanton
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Hyla,
>
> I dont understand why I wont be refunded all my money. As per the documents I signed, MMG was going to help me resolve my debts. Nothing was done and
now I have to file banruptcy because instead of helping, MMG worsened my finacial situation. I think I am entitled to get all of my money back. I
only want back all of the money I put in. I closed my account with MMG because MMG broke their agreement with me. Please let me know when I will receive my funds.
>
> Thank you,

We have proof of documents sent on your behalf, the service of the reciept of the billing in your name during which power of attny was executed, as well as in office preperation fees, and paralegal fees,
that have been absorbed. Your account has had a steady amount of activity, and if you will re- read your contract, you will see, that you are in a contract with RISK MANAGEMENT PARTNERS, LTD, and the setup fee, and two retainer payements are NON refundable. I will be in the office, and addressing these accounts to ensure the creditors are aware
that they will need to be in contact with you, as I will be providing them with your information to contact you, as well as to notify them that we are no longer authorized to work on your behalf. Your mailings from said companies will also be relaesed back to your possession, as we will no longer accept mail in your name.

Please allow me to research the file, and move on to executing your refund.

Hyla Stanton

Zamorae7... That is such BS.... she was in breech of the contract and we should get all refunds back. She has worsened our credit... not made it better. That is it, I am calling an attorney and updating my report with the FTC. If you have a FTC complaint number, IF ANY ONE HAS AN FTC COMPLAINT NUMBER, pm it to me so I can add to my list of other complaint numbers so we can bombard the FTC with the proof that there is more than just one of us out here with this problem... they do not work for an individual but for a community of people with the same problem. We need to join together on this.

The NY Atorney General wants proof of payments such as canceled checks front and back. This was electonic withdrawl, I have no copies. Any suggestions?

citykid...call your bank and get records of the EFT's..that's the best yu can do.

Got a packet from the NV Att. General office of consumer protection - they did not believe the informaiton was evidence of "deceptive trade practices statues"

interesting!!!

The bank says all they can do is send a copy of my statments, nothing else.

Citykid did you do banking on line because you can access that and since it was automatic draft it will show that every month, i can print mine out from my computer,also i am sending in another complaint to the ftc and letting them know everything that i have gotten so far from mmg and the bbb letter that rmp said the 4-6 weeks is a estimate and all the bull about checking out the payments and all and that i sent it back to the bbb in nevada saying it is still unresolved.

I found the AZ State Banking Dept. press release and it clearly says "The refunds to clients include any fees the clients paid and any other money that the clients paid to Miracle Management Group for the purpose of paying off debt". Isn't it funny that she says I will not get my full refund.

zamorae7, those people got it all back because they had a legal team working on it... I think that is the only way you will get those so called 'non-refundable' fees back.

I just found out that a credit card company is taking me to court.Rmg contacted me the day before thanksgiving but i can't get ahold of them again any suggestions

hello everyone. anything new going on? haven't been around for a day or so, nothing new here, guest the best way to get a hold of them is probably to email them,

I've emailed Hyla a couple of times, no responce. Her lawyer is now avoiding calls and emails. I have sent a LARGE packet of documents including all my RMP contract info and all withdrawls from them from my bank account to the NYS Attorney General.

How about you MADMOM? Should be gettinmg that check tomorrow or Tueday, right?

That check was suppose to be sent to me on the 4th of November not December, Didn't get it of course, Got an email from her last week saying that she is working on it and that the first order did not apply to me since I didn't live in Arizona and got in on that bunch of complaints. I emailed her back and told her that it shouldn't matter when I joined that company I should still get all of my money back in full. Haven't heard anything yet from her,I emailed her yesterday asking when I would get it but haven't gotten a reply. Still checking the FTC occasionally to see if anything is on it about them but nothing so far. I sent everything of mine to my Attorney General too. Also contacted Arizona's just to tell them that it wasn't right for them to let the company do this after the order was put out, they are still doing business apparently, and I told them that they were still taking it out of my account until I closed it out so they didn't abide by the first order and asked why they couldn't open it again since they didn't stop all business like they ordered, No answer yet though.

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