Miracle Management Group: How reliable are they?

Response to URGH MEISER:

1) The truth lies in the court report for the State Banking Dept. of Arizona that they were operating illegally, without proper licensure and were ordered to pay people back 'all monies' paid to them. ( STATE OF AZ, AND THAT ISSUE DOESNT PERTAIN TO YOU)

The issue does pertian to me and everyone else who got ripped off... this is the reason why the State of Arizona can not help us even though this is their jurisdiction. According to them, because they already took them to court, the case is closed and they can no longer help any of us because they got restituion for those involved with the case at that time... This included Arizona residents and a handful of out-of state clients. This is why it is so difficult for us to get anywhere with all of this.

2) The truth is that they have obviously mishandled our money which is why they can not pay us back in the standard 4-6 week from when they receive our cancellation letters. But yet live in a million dollar home. ( THERE IS NO PROOF, AND WHO SAID THAT THE STANTON's didn't earn thier home, HAVE YOU PROOF???)

Yes, they earned their money from taking ours. If they were really honest hardworking people that earned their own money, then why does it take so long to get our money back?? Our money should have gone into a non-interest bearing account. Upon cancellation, the money should still be in this account and should be returned to us. If they really put our money into a account, they should have no problem in accessing these funds and returning them in an efficient and timely manner. They sure don't have a problem taking our money out of our bank accounts every single month. Obviously since it takes so long to receive our refunds, I just assume it's because they don't have the funds to return to us.... why is this? Probably because they spent it or invested it for their own personal purposes.

3) The truth is they did not work to pay off or debt in the way the told us they would which in turn has caused all of us to fall deeper into debt years later after joining the program.
( THat Doesnt seem to be the concensus OF EVERYONES situation, once again, there is proof of action on EVERYONES accounts, HAVE YOU RECIEVED YOUR BILLS, OR MAIL???)

Yes I have received mail... most recently letters from a collection agency threatening to take me to court on behalf of one of my creditors. I believe the Stantons start you off and set you up by initially contacting your creditors but then do not take action on actually negotiating with your creditors. If they don't have the money to pay us our refunds, then they don't have the money to negotiate with our creditors.


4) The truth is they are a completely unprofessional company who has terrible customer service and a total lack of action on our behalf. They do not call back, barely respond to emails, and never gives a real honest answer of what is going on to our accounts.

( UNDERSTAFFED- MAYBE, TOO STREAMLINED, PERHAPS.. but I havent any problems getting a response from even HYLA STANTON by email...so my input is to TRY AGAIN)

If you read my first posting correctly, I said 'BARELY responds to emails' not 'not at all'. They have responded to my emails but that is only after emailing numerous times and calling numerous times. It should not be this hard... any professional company works in a more timely manner, especially when they know they have an upset client. Why would they not respond to clients who have been with them for 3+ years?

Doesn't matter who got fired, who does drugs or whatever... we all know what our personal situation is and it seems to be common among almost all of us

( WHO ARE ALL OF YOU?? IF YOU WROTE TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE INSTEAD OF HERE, MAYBE YOU'D GET YOUR FUNDS, BUT I AM SURE THAT MOST OF YOU HAVEN'T)

I have written to everyone, RMP/MMG, BBB, FTC, Congressmen (2 of them), State Bureaus for Arizona, Nevada, and my state, and my senator. My information is sent from these agencies back to the FTC. Since the State of Arizona can no longer help us, the FTC or a private attorney are the only ones who can... that was stated by Craig Raby who handled the case in Arizona.

Look,
I don't care for slandering anyone here on the board. I don't have all the facts to do that. But I do have facts dealing with RMP.
* The have atrocious customer service! They do not answer phone calls and rarely return emails. ask for a straight answer and you will not get one.
* I have been PROMISED a refund check months ago. Did not receive it. I keep being told that they will get to me.
* My last creditor account was open for about a year without being contacted from Risk Mgt! I took the bull into my own hands and got a settlement. They said they were NEVER contacted from a Miracle Management Group or Risk Management Partners. This all the while I kept calling RMP BEGGING to quickly close the account because I am trying to buy a home and need the account closed for banking reasons. COMPLETELY LIED TO!

I am about to close on a home. I really need that extra money of mine in my account but HYLA STANTON will not tell me when I will receive said money. I never bad mouthed this company, actually defended they a couple of times on this board. I have only acted in a professional manner the whole time, with you people and with RMP via voice mails and emails, and still I am treated like a second class citizen.

Here end'th my rant.

1.) PLEASE DO NOT BE IGNORANT AND MAKE THREATS! You honestly feel good about making threats to people you don't even know. Why don't you try to be PRO-ACTIVE, and drive to thier office, instead of sitting around on here PROPAGATING anger. I am here to do research on this for my Aunt and Uncle in another state. They have gone through BK, a option GIVEN TO THEM BY D.DOWDY, which was WRONG!!! They had a few accounts, that were a timely issue, and BTW.. I have thier settlement letters, as proof that thier are settlements done for them.

Issue#1: By god`s sake, ARE YOU THAT STUPID???!!!??? Look Stanton ... So you have the settlement letters as proof. If that was the case, you shouldn`t be claiming that your "relatives" have gone through bankruptcy!!! The settlements were done...PERIOD!!! No further action needed such as bankruptcy. Your "relatives" knew this before you got them into the program.

Issue#2: Hey Stantons! You`re doing research for your aunt and uncle because they gone through bankruptcy, an option given by David...........S T U P I D !!!!!!
You got your "relatives" involved in this program ...and yet they listened to David`s advice... Didn`t your "relatives" consult you FIRST before they filed for bankruptcy??? ... or you just turned your back against them and get their money...just like what you did with everybody elses. I agree, YOU ARE IN A LOT OF HEAT with your "relatives"...because you Stantons are UNETHICAL.

Whoa...there`s more... You Stantons are millionaires (or "well off"), you have the money since you have other businesses, why didn`t you help your "relatives" by paying off their debts instead of putting them in the program??


2.) MR. David Dowdy of Glendale, AZ will be in a LOT of HOT WATER if he doesnt stop working against a company that is stuggling to do the right thing for everyone...

Issue#1 : David is not in hot water.....YOU ARE! IDIOTS!!!!!!! besides....We salute him for helping us whatever he can. RMP/MMG is not struggling to do the right thing because you , STANTONS, can`t get your company to answer your clients phone calls...PERIOD.

Yeah...it may say Guest but it`s actually me....USDagger. The House of USDagger

Forum members don't let Hyla disguise herself on the forum and sway your focus away from your money. I will handle the Stantons in AZ; oh yeah, I already have. STAY FOCUSED AND RESOLVED to get your money back from these thieves. I want them shut down for good and the more this is escalated the more I am resolved to be more proactive for you folks out of state. It's harder, but necessary. Mr. Dagger, brilliant response to Hyla. She's so stupid it should be very easy to just destroy her. If you can, please go by the RMP in Texas and report your results. I can promise you that it's just a dummy company. As I've stated before, they are setting up again for another go around at stealing money from your friends, relatives, and neighbors.

What about JOE Shmoe, out there in Nevada, running that bogus office?? Where is HE now?? Possibly setting up a new office in Texas??? Too bad these poor people cannot make an honest buck!!

Has anyone had any luck in talking with a private lawyer regarding any matters with MMG, or Risk Mgmt., or Jublie whatever they wish to call themselves?

I talked with a private attorney here in my state. Unfortunately, he, like many other attorneys nationwide, can not provide legal representation in other states.... You see, an attorney has to have a license to practice law in each and every individual state because the laws are so different in each state. They have to take a test and be certified for each state. He assured me that many attorneys that claim to be national attorneys are truly not... so be careful when looking into an attorney. This is why I would not be worried when you contact Hyla and she threatens to sue for harrassment.... she will have to sue you in your state, if her attorney Mike Gerity is even licensed to do that, and then your attorney can represent you. She would not want to go against any of us in front of a judge anyways... she would lose for ripping us off. For me, I did not have the extra cash to start the attorney off on legally representing me... the consultation alone was $75.00 for an hour. He did give me some good info though and said if it did end up going to litigation, we could tack on additional charges like the additional money the creditors state we now owe and of course all legal fees.

I received this from the Finance department today.

Sir,
Our department has not completed your refund process. We re-assure you
that a refund check will be issued to you once we have finalized your
refund process.
Thank You,
Finance Department
Risk Management Partners, LTD.

It has been five months now! Why is the refund process not completed?
What must happen for the process to be finalized?

They must scam more people to get more money. When are the crooks going to JAIL? I think they would look really nice in the jail bird attire. Tent city would suit them much better then their big home in triple D. Look out Texas.

citykid,

Have you enrolled with another debt consolidation company since quitting the crap one that we all fell for?

If Hyla Stanton and her people do not issue all of us our full refunds and compensation for all the trouble they have caused us, not only is the law going to get them, KARMA will get them worse than what they did to us! WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND! YOU DO BAD THINGS TO OTHER PEOPLE, YOU WILL GET IT BACK TEN-FOLD!

Why are our comments being deleted from this reputable forum?

Hi Guest,

It's not that the comments are getting deleted from this forum. Only the irrelevant posts that are not required are getting moderated. I kept this one for you to show, otherwise, it's not necessary as per the topic being discussed here.

Once you have read my post, I will moderate these two of the posts.

Thanks
Roxette

Roxette,

I thought this forum served as a way for us to express our freedom of speech to others who share the same problems. I question why you delete our comments, including the one recently from 'usedtoworkforscumbags' but leave up the ones where someone is asking about how big Hyla's **** job is or how hot she is???? How are these comments relevant??? We all know Hyla reads this forum and the comment from 'usedtowork...' was directed to Hyla. I was actually hoping she would read that comment from her fromer employee... and no, I did not make post it.

****Adult term removed - Jason

Guest, I went through the posts of "usedtoworkforscumbags" and deleted them too. You can also message me if you find such posts not relevant to the topic discussed here.

Please continue to use this forum and express your free thoughts. This is your forum and I will ensure the dignity of this forum maintained.

Thanks
Roxette