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Replied on 10-05-2005, 10:33 AM
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Uh oh, now the phone just rings, then hangs up. Not even the automatic operator picks up.

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Replied on 10-05-2005, 10:47 AM
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I found that site as well (ripoffreport.com) I added to that as well. I contacted my local Attorney General...to my surprise MMG replied to them rather quickly. They claimed we were lying about the alligations etc....They are the ones NOT holding up their end of the bargain. I will definitely use the email address of Ms. Stanton. Our 6 week period is up November 7th...I will be emailing the following day to get my money. I am still having a problem thou - any suggestions from any one - problem is that I need to get the collection agencies names and amountys owed in order to get a real consolidation loan - with out MMG I am screwed....help!!!

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Replied on 10-05-2005, 11:13 AM
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schim21, have you pulled your latest credit report to see the financial standing of the account? You will get necessary information from the report.

Also, you can try to contact the original creditors. I hope they will be able to give more information about this debt account.

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Replied on 10-05-2005, 11:58 AM
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i have not tried to pull my credit report. that is probably what we will have to do. i do not have the information of the original creditors...well i have the credit card company and card numbers. i have started to research phone numbers etc for those cards in order to get some information.

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Replied on 10-05-2005, 12:15 PM
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schim21, I can help you in your search

Let me know if I can do anything for you to make your search easier.

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Replied on 10-05-2005, 12:44 PM
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ben - thanks i may need to take you up on that...i am hoping to get that info by the end of next week- if not i will be contacting you..THANKS

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Sub: #87 MIRACLE MANAGEMENT GROUP
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Tried to email mmg and tried to call them just now and my emails won't go nor do you get the voicemail message. It just keeps ringing and ringing. Checked them out on the internet and one lady says she did get her money form them. Also the owner states that she will refund moneys for people to contact her but do you do that? Her emails won't go through either. I am so upset about this whole mess. I have an appointment wiht a lawyer friday and i guess he will advise me what to do about all this.my credit is shot and i will not let them get by with this. Even if the lawyer takes all of my account money for this it would almost be worth it to stop these criminals but i will take them as far as the law allows me to go with this. God help us all. This cannot be legal for them to do this to all of us. There has got to be a way to make them give us our money and pay for the damage they have done to us all. I am a widow and my husband would have had a fit that this has happened to me for just trying to get out of debt. Not cheating or lieing just trying to survive each day. It wasn't like i tried not to pay bills it is just hard on one income now a days.

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Sub: #88 Miracle Management Group
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From the searching I have done, in my opinion:

1. MMG was just a marketing arm for Risk Management Partners.
2. RMP is a corporate shell only for the purpose of protecting the personal liability of the Stantons.
3. For all intensive purposes they are the same company.
4. Both companies are (were) incorporated in Nevada but neither have or have ever had an office there. MMG is in default, RMM is void of corporate officers.
5. The Stanton's have their house for sale in Tempe, AZ and are planning to move to Texas. Check out realtor dot com MLS #2382645.

Is is possible to put a lien on their property? That might encourage them to refund dollars a little faster.

Good luck everone.

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Sub: #89 MIRACLE MANAGEMENT GROUP
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Jnifer. Where did you get this info?are you trying to say they are running out on a court order to pay their accounts to all of us if so where did you get that from? They were getting emails as far as i know until today. Not going now though. Also the email address of some of their reps comes back postmaster undelivered. Maybe because i have emailed them numerous times. They did respond and i have a copy of their response as of friday any way.

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GLO. The info is all off the internet and news reports. I don't know if the Stantons are planning on running out on the court order. However, it seems that there is likely more than $200,000 owed to their clients. There just seems like a lot of people out there that have not filed a claim with the Arizona Banking Department. For those that have not seen the court order check out azbanking dot gov and do a search for "Miracle Management."

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Jnifer, thanks. I went to the sight and i am printing out all that info and taking it to a lawyer friday to look over. These people are terrible.

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Sub: #92 Miracle Managemen
Replied on 10-06-2005, 07:59 AM
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How do we send a letter in writing to request a cancellation when no one answers?
Should I contact my bank to tell them to no longer take this out of my account?
Then do you think I should contact my creditors to ask them what my next step is?

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Still can not get through on the phones, no one answers. And the Arizona Banking Department won't work for out of state people like myself. I sppoke with the guys who was in charge of that case.

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Replied on 10-06-2005, 09:20 AM
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Hi jamiezane

As you have sent the letter to the company and have the return receipt of failure in delivery, you can produce it as a proof showing your efforts to make the payments.

You can close your checking account so that unauthorized debits don't happen in your account. You can talk with the bankers also regarding this matter.

If your account is sold to the collection agency, the creditors won't be able to offer much help to you regarding this matter. But you can inform them and explain the situation.

Keep all the documentation in safe place so that you can prove that you have tried every bit to contact the company in clearing your debt.

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Replied on 10-06-2005, 09:22 AM
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jamiezane, call up the creditors, I did. Came to an agreement in five min what RMP couldn't do in one year. And i told my back to stop all withdrawls from them before I spoke with my creditors.

I spoke with a lawer and was told that it would cost way too much to hire a lawyer to get back a much samller amount, even though it's in the thousands. Pro bono is no good cause of the amount of hours needed to be put in, again, for the small value.

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citykid - how did you get t he names of your creditors? most of my accounts are with collection agencies - well at least I think theyt are -




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