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BethN · Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:31 pm Subject:

First I want to tahnk everybody for their very useful and helpful information. Second, my loan was also through FSM Group, I am starting to wonder if FSM and Ellis may have something to do with each other? I was also screamed at and when I told them I had my proof of the payments I had made and how much I actually owed they would no longer speak to me.

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:48 pm Subject:

Tabitha - They just try to scare you by taking your hard drive and jails etc. But they will really not do this because the law is against them. So, you be rest assured and take the stronger side while dealing with them. Don't get intimidated which is very important. It is they who are guilty so why do you need to scare?

I don't have an idea if they are licensed to collect debt in Illinois. I will let you know soon about this. Even if they are allowed, they can't take any action right now.

Jenrum73 · Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:42 pm Subject: Phone # for FSM group

I got a phone call from a MR. Robuck who said he was going to put me in jail. They won't give me any information re: the phone # to FSM group or account number.I asked them to mail me a debt validation, and he stated that i had already been mailed one months ago. Which i was not, an now I can not find a phone number for FSM Group anywhere..can anyone help me find that number

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:50 pm Subject:

Hi Jenrum73

Welcome to the forums. Please contact FSM at the following address:

FSM Processing Inc
11 East Gregory, Suite 200
Kansas City, Missouri 64114
Phone 1-866-516-9300
Fax 866-516-9700

If there is anything that I can help you with, please do not hesitate to post it in the forums.

Regards
Roxette

Tabitha · Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:36 am Subject:

Can anyone tell me, is Ellis still suspended from collecting? What info are they currently giving other debtors for paying via western union? Are we all being given the same code cities and states?
This company scared the **it out of me!!!!

Tabitha · Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:34 am Subject:

you've all been so helpful...i contacted Summer at the Florida Atty. Gen's office and it sounds like we are ALL doing the right thing. To anyone who used Platinum B or even FSM group...don't bother trying to contact them, they won't do ANYTHING...our accounts were sold to the "highest bidders" and that's who Ellis is....unfortunately they are the ones we must deal with. I'll see if I can find the post with the contact info for the Atty Gen's office, and I'll add it in....Go to them, they WILL help us...
In the meantime if anyone can tell me if Ellis can collect in the state of Illinois I'd greatly appreciate it!

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:49 am Subject: Alice (Ellis), Crosby, and Assoicates

I love trying to help people out. So in trying to gain information about the company (acting as cheerful as possible) I called the company and asked for their website.

Anthony, the receptionist, who wouldn't give his name until I asked for it, quetsioned why.

He asked if I had been contacted and I said no. He then asked if I work for an attorney's office. (I actually work at a hospital billing office. lots off gibber jabber going in the back ground, and the caller id shows

--- Billing & Third Party Collect

anyway...he (Anthony) said he was confused as why I was calling. Still acting cheerful as can be, I said I was calling about career oppurtunities and wanted to know more about the company and see if anything is available.

Anthony said he didn't beleive who I said I was, and I said..would you like me to fax you a copy of my driver license. He said..."Now you're being funny" I told him no...you're going to get a copy when I apply anyway, right?

so anyway... I think we should all call at the same time and bug the shit out of these people until we get some answers. One person doesn't help. 1000s of people calling can help. It's not harassment when we're trying to get some answers...right?

I was transfered to Mr. Greenburg

Sincerely
Mister Big
(Detroit Area) Michigan

Tabitha · Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:49 am Subject:

I just pulled this off the ACA Website... A moment we can all SMILE over...

http://www.fdcpa.org/?cid=6710

Ethics Suspensions and Expulsions
Published: Tuesday, June 21, 2005
ACTIONS OF THE ACA ETHICS AND PROFESSIONAL RESPONSIBILITY COMMITTEE

Ellis Crosby and Associates in Jacksonville, FL After a thorough investigation, complete examination of the record and full discussion of the issues, the ACA Ethics and Professional Responsibility Committee has terminated the membership of Ellis Crosby and Associates. The expulsion took effect on August 9, 2005.

katie · Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:15 am Subject: who hoooo

YAY! They have gotten what they deserved. But does that mean they are over and done with ? What will happen with our files?

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:52 am Subject:

::raises glass::
GREAT detective work everyone! And I am certain that all our complaints to the appropriate companies helped out! Thanks for the info Tabitha!

Mikey...LMFAO! Awesome job turning it around on them! Hilairous! Very Happy

Tabitha · Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:30 am Subject:

Ok...but the question is...what does all of this mean for us?

I say at the count of three we ALL call them and give them a taste of their own medicine...

c'mon....1 2 3 Wink

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:38 am Subject:

it means call and ask for Ted Crosby. Act cheerful though. they'll think you're a news reporter or someting else. if you act ditzy enough, you could even pretend your inquiring about an intern position. not that interns are ditzy...but they're currently under survailance according to online news stories and from previous phone calls i have made.

i'm currently trying to do a search and see if there are any attorneys in the area that are on the criminal side suing them.

soon as i find out who, i'll post it...so everyone can call and offer their thoughts/stories/info/complaints. there might be another lawsuit coming up.

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:54 am Subject:

Tabitha - As it is clearly known that the membership of Ellis is revoked so they are restricted from doing any sort of business activities anywhere in the United States. On that note, they can't collect debt from Illinois also.

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:07 pm Subject: Ellis, Crosby....membership in ACA

Hello, I just wanted to share that I had e-mail from the American Collectors Association (ACA), who have terminated the membership of Ellis, Crosby and Associates from their organization. ACA explained that, although Ellis, Crosby's membership in their organization has been terminated, ACA hase no legal power to keep them from conducting business. I was advised to contact the BBB, FTC, and Florida Attorney General's office, all of which I have done. I encourage anyone who has been contacted by Ellis, Crosby to tell them you are recording the conversation, demand WRITTEN validation of the debt, and follow up with a cease and desist letter, sent via certified mail with signature upon delivery requested; if they contact you via telephone after you have sent this letter, they could be sued and fined. They are unscrupulous, immoral, illiterate, dirty debt collectors and nothing more....not lawyers, law enforcement officials, probably not even high school graduates! Mad

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:09 pm Subject:

Thanks for the update, tippy!
I wrote my letter to the FTC, and hopefully that's another letter towards getting this "business" shut down for good!
I might call and mess with 'em anyway! Blocking my number first, of course!

BerhN · Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 3:49 pm Subject:

I just want to make sure I have this all straight. They are booted out of the ACA but they can still try to collect monies? Like I have stated before, I owed FSM like thirty dollars and Ellis was asking for six hundred eighty, can they try to collect on six hundred eighty? Also, how do I contact the FTC and others?

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