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Replied on 09-06-2007, 06:16 AM
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I just want to say thank you to all of you who have posted comments. I got a call from them yesterday but they did not leave a message. I Googled their name and found this site. I'm so glad I did.

skyward I pray you get your money back and that things will work out for you.

Thanks again everyone!

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Sub: #18 Roll Law Office
Replied on 09-06-2007, 06:49 AM
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Well I can report that I did go to court and things did not seem good. I had no representation and they had even told me I didn't have to show up.

After court everything looked like a scam, but I have talked with the person at the company that sued me and he has verified that there is a settlement. He had been on vacation and did not get the paper work done.

I am now working on getting the person at Roll Law to make contact with the ones who sued and get the paperwork done.

The man from the company did say that it would not have been good if I had not shown up in court.

Right now things look like they may work out ok, but I would advise anyone to seek help in our own city and not over the internet. That way you have eyeball to eyeball contact.

Also I found out from a friend who has dealt with a lot of financial problems that it is worse on your credit to go to a debt counciling place rather than claim bankruptcy. Just a tidbit for anyone that can use it.

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Replied on 09-06-2007, 07:50 AM
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Skyward
I’m so glad things are working out. Best of Luck! But be sure to get everything in writing and find an old shoebox (my personal filing system) and keep everything! Even after you think it’s all taken care of. After reading many posts on this site you never know, years from now what kinds of things may pop up to haunt you

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Sub: #20 Roll Law Office
Replied on 09-19-2007, 11:39 AM
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I have nothing but great things to say about the Roll Law office. They have worked wonders for me.
I would recommedn them to anyone who needs this assistance.

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Sub: #21 Roll Law Office
Replied on 09-21-2007, 06:58 AM
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Here is an update on my situation:

Because of a lot of things that seemed to be happening I was not sure if I was being scammed or not.

After I had to appear in court I was able to get in touch with the man who was handling my account with the people who had sued me.

He was not suppose to really talk to me since I had a lawyer involved & they were power of attorney, but he was nice and did give me enough info to verify that he had talked with the Roll Law Office and that there were indeed trying to come in agreement with a settlement.

There has been a settlement agreement made, the Roll Law Office faxed me the settlement paper and I have sent a check to get all of it paid and closed out.

I have one more company that I am trying to settle with and the man from the Roll Law Office who is working on this account I have been impressed with. I think it may be taken care of by the end of the month.

All I can say is I took a big risk finding someone over the internet. That is something I usually don't do.

I have learned from this and I will be a lot more wiser. It's too easy to get scammed over the internet by going with companies you know nothing about.

Anyone can make a website look real. Make sure you investigate. Do Your Home Work!!!!!

Here is some advice:

With the Roll Law Office or any other company like this you have to let your bills go delinquent if they are not already.

You pay Roll Law or whoever a monthly payment, your account with them has to build up to a certain amount of money before they can start negotiations with your creditors.

This could take a few years to build up depending on your payments (for us it was 2 years). Then once you settle with one of your creditors your account is wiped out and you have to start again.

For one thing your creditors WILL NOT!!! go that long before they sue! I told the guy with Roll that I wanted to get the other account settled because "they will not wait 2-3yrs for my acct to be built backup before they sue me and I don't want to get sued again." He said I was exactly right.

Plus all this time the credit collectors are adding interest to your account. The account I have left has had $1,700.00 added in interest.

Which means you have to come up with MORE money to be able to negotiate with the creditors. I was orginally told by Roll that after paying X amount of dollars over 4yrs my accounts would be paid off. This is not always true because if the creditors keep adding interest to your account then Roll or whoever will have to have more money from you to start negotiations.

The man from Roll said he has had accounts that start off with the bill being like $6,000.00 but because of interest being added to the bill before the client had their account with them built up he has seen the $6,000.00 turn into like $15,000.00.

So BE CAREFUL!!! when thinking about something like this because you can dig yourself a major big ditch that you can't climb out of.

We sure would have if we had not have had some extra money come our way. That is ALL that has saved us.

Sorry this is so long but I hope it has helped someone out there.

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Sub: #22 roll law orifice
Replied on 09-26-2007, 04:03 PM
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roll is a scam. anyone if they have half a brain can negotiate settlements and payment arrangements with collection companies. and on top if it, if they do negotiate a lower settlement they dont tell you and pocket the difference. DIRTBAGS

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Sub: #23
Replied on 09-26-2007, 07:34 PM
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LOL.....please, I know someone who was on their program and they actually got money back at the end because of excess money in the trust account at the end of the program.

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Sub: #24 Take reasponsibility...
Replied on 10-18-2007, 08:38 PM
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Gossip, gossip, gossip. Try reading the paperwork you signed up for, when you asked for the program. I followed instructions they gave me; didn't procrastinate till the last minute, I used a fax machine (they are a business)and didn't sent notebook paper with pencil scribble, I kept up my payments so they could settle my debt quickly, I didn't talk to my creditors and piss them off with threating attorney talk I knew nothing about. I gave them the # to the Roll Law Office. I think there is a difference between Law Office and Law Firm, you schmucks... specifically that disgruntle ex-employee. Who probably got fire for a reason he was to young to understand, probably for working in the break room. I successfully completed the program because I read the fine print and understood what I was getting into, I didn't listen to gossip from chat room or a secretary at a law office. If you had half a brain, you'd know that an attorney doesn't let his secretary give legal advice. If you got a hold of her, you could of talked to the Debt Negotiator or Legal Dept, moron. So why would you ask her? I wouldn't ask my dentist for advice about a pain in my butt. Try looking before you leap and take responsibility for you actions.

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Sub: #25 The Roll Law Office, PLLC
Replied on 10-22-2007, 04:09 PM
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I would like to respond to the various messages that have been posted.
The Roll Law Office, PLLC is a law firm located in Tempe, Arizona. I have been an attorney since 1994, opening my own office in 2002. Among other areas, I practice in consumer bankruptcy. As an alternative to filing bankruptcy, I started offering "debt settlement" to clients 3 years ago. This area has continued to grow ever since. For obvious reasons, debt settlement can be a very attractive alternative to filing bankruptcy - HOWEVER, in some cases, bankruptcy may be the best option for the client. Some clients start in the debt settlement program, but as circumstances/events evolve over time, may end up filing for bankruptcy.

It should be noted that the Representation and Fee Agreement that each client signs before entering the debt settlement program clearly states that my office will NOT represent the client in any court or arbitration proceeding. And anyone looking to enter into a debt settlement program should realize that their creditors may decide to file a lawsuit to collect the amounts owed. I WOULD NEVER advise a client NOT to go to a hearing. In fact, it often works to the client's advantage for the client to file an Answer and to attend a hearing (though, again, my office does not represent them in such proceedings). Anyone who suggests otherwise is misinformed.
In my experience, debt settlement is more "art than science." There are no guarantees, there are no easy answers or quick fixes. While my office is staffed by humans who are not "perfect," they are hard working and dedicated to providing the best service possible for the client.
I, or anyone at my office, would be happy to answers any questions directly.
Thank you,
Guy Roll
guy(at)roll-law.com

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Replied on 10-22-2007, 04:30 PM
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Guy
That sounds like a very honest and up front post.

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Sub: #27
Replied on 11-21-2007, 07:07 AM
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I am very happy with The Roll Law Office. They are very good and helpful. I was sued by Bank of America and The Roll Law Office took care everything and now is done very well. I still have 15 months to go. I still received the letter from Debt Collector from another debt and I just need to fax to the Roll Law Office. I do not worry anything...and I am so happy now.

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Sub: #28
Replied on 11-21-2007, 12:55 PM
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Roll Law is handling my settlements on 2 credit accounts right now. They are HORRIBLE with communication, and as far as I'm concerned, a waste of my money. I have spent about $1500 in service fees to them so far. I can't wait till this is over, and would NOT recommend them to anyone. They act as a middle man between you and your creditors... you could do this yourself. It's a rip off, but not a scam.




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Replied on 11-21-2007, 01:21 PM
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Unfortunately I have found any law office that I have dealt with in the last 40 years or so to be horrible with communication. I have had lawyers that I was paying but would not return my phone calls. They show up late for court and take forever to do paperwork, But thats a subject for the pub.

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Replied on 11-21-2007, 01:48 PM
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current_client....

any debt settlement company acts as a middle man between you and the credit card companies/collection agnecies. that's their job!

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Sub: #31 roll law office
Replied on 11-28-2007, 05:49 PM
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skyward,how did your ordeal turn out ,ijust retained this firm .

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Sub: #32 Roll Law Office - final Out Come
Replied on 01-10-2008, 11:37 AM
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I would like to say that my ordeal is FINALLY over! I see that Guy Roll has responded to this site so maybe he will see this.

I will say that this turned out not to be a scam. I will also say that I did read all the paperwork they give you to sign when you get started and it does say they will not represent you in court.

If I think about it it was some lousy thinking on my part. I just did not take the time to think things through.

The thing is (let's take my situation) I was told to pay X amonut to Roll each month for 4 yrs and the bills would be paid off.

Now they do say in writing that you have to sign that it could take longer to pay off and they will not go to court.

My responsiblity should have been to really think this thing out.
1)you bills go delinquent.
2)you pay Roll (or whoever) a monthly payment. They make no payments to your creditors and in my case it was 2yrs before they could start talking with a creditor about settling.
3)bills were turned over to collection agent
4)with no payment or settlement to collection agent for that long of time. there is a HIGH risk of a law suit.
5) with no payment being made all kinds of interest is being added to your accts. Thus having to pay Roll longer than what you were told is pretty apparent.
6)No guarantee not to get sued and if you do no representation!

I will say because I had some unexpected money come my way I was able to get all this taken care of.

I had my account built up to where I was able to pay Roll extra right then so they could start a settlement. After the first debt was paid I called the person who was my negoiator (sp?) for the 2nd debt.

I ended up being VERY pleased with the work that he did and he saved us a lot of money. I was shocked by the low amount he was able to settle the debt for. He did do us a great job and we did get some money back.

It all turned out good for us thanks to getting that extra money. If we had not gotten that money we would be in some very HOT water right now.

Even though this turned out I would not do this again.

Like Guy Roll says this is "AT YOUR OWN RISK"

Also I would like to tell Guy Roll that the communication STINKS!!!

No matter what time of day you call 1st thing you are put on hold with music (which is really messed up!) a recording does say you can leave a message and someone will call back. NO one ever did!
Then after so long you get disconnected. I spent TONS of time just trying to get someone to talk to.

Your communication needs MAJOR improvement!!!!!!!!!




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