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Edgar · Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:43 am Subject:

As a lawyer in Maine, and reading through these threads - it appears that this outfit has recently changed tact in their dealings.
They appear now to have moved away from the 900 number scam to what seems to be the easier harassment sector of payday loans. There could also be a case of desperation here as they are probably under major investigation from several authorities including the RCMP. The ten years so called tenure in business could well be at an end. Looks also, like they have a new employee who is able to string sentences together.

Sly Fox · Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:47 am Subject:

People, people. The collection agencies and or debt collection Firms are not the ones providing the 900 numbers or are they the payday lenders. They are the ones given the bad debt files to pursue. You are all missing/not seeing the big picture here. If there were some 900 craming scams it wasn't done by these agencies, it was done by the 900 providers. The agencies are only doing what they've been hired to do. I'm sure once they too became away of fraudulent activities they (hopefully) terminated any agreements that they may have had with these companies. The payday loan industry is thriving and there are many people utilizing these services. Maine Lawyer (?) you refer to this as an easier harassment sector, what about the indebted customers that harass the collectors - it's done! I assure you, far more often than any 'harassment' going the other way. I incourage you to visit an agency and listen in on some of their calls. You'll be plesantly surprised at the conduct of some of these individuals - there not all the cream of the crop.
The company that you all keep refering to isn't going anywhere any time soon. They are obviously very very good at what they do - look at all the free advertising you are all giving them.
Good on you!

Guest · Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:04 pm Subject:

That is fine and well Sly Fox but you would think a reputable agency would conduct their business in a reptuable, professional and legit manner unlike Mr. David's agency. I understand that companies are hired to retrieve lost amounts but don't you think if they were a legit company they would have no problem turning over to you any documents you request and do it in a pleasant professional manner? I am not sure but I think either you have never had to deal with these con artists or you are connected somehow to them. It's simple, when asked to provide documentation (i.e. contracts, validation letters, mailing addresses, etc., etc., etc.) you provide them NOT harrass, threaten and hang up on people. You indicate that the agencies are the ones being harrassed, I have never encountered an agency who hasn't harrassed me which tells me they are obviously out to scam people. Good businesses stay in business and don't have people making false accusations about them because they handle themselves properly. When you read negative feedback about agencies by not one individual but many, many, many . . . . common sense would indicate scam written all over it. Yes, the agency apparently has been able to avoid legal trouble so far but all good scams will come to an end. Free advertising . . . I think not. This method you call advertising is alerting people not do fall prey to them and hopefully many people will investigate them first here and not be unfortunate as to give in to their threats and how would you know if they are not going anywhere soon . . . hmmmmmmmmmm.

General Question · Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:38 pm Subject:

Just curious, has anyone actually been really taken to court by this David guy and his agency and actually charged - I am guessing not but I am sure he will say yes just to scare people.

Sly Fox · Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:13 pm Subject:

Silly rabbit, Tricks are for kids.

When did this become Mr. David's agency. I hope he reads this, I'm not sure he knows he was just promoted!
Have you spoken with Mr. David? If so, did you know which company, and what debt he was calling about?
I know many in this 'business', and they all have to deal with the same things. They are hired to do a job, that's all. Indebted customers have a knack for delaying the payment process, on of the more popular tactics is requesting all sorts of back up documentation.
Yup, there certainly are some angry people here, but I've no doubt that there stories are extremely one sided.
Hey Mr. David,
Tell these guys what it's all about.
oh ya - Congrats on your promotion!

ENOUGH · Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:05 pm Subject:

According to PhoneBusters, they know of no one going to court.
When the reporter from Channel 2 asked Mr. David what company/companies he represents, he wouldn't tell her other than a lot of different ones.
As far as "Indebted customers have a knack for delaying the payment process, on of the more popular tactics is requesting all sorts of back up documentation," what person would pay for something without seeing documentation? Just because someone calls you at home and demands money, that means you just send them money? If that's the case, then everyone should quit their legitimate jobs and take up the profession of Paul Kupferstein's office.

Another Guest · Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:05 pm Subject:

Just curious what Educated, Sly Fox, Mr. David, Paul Kupferstein, etc. has to say about PhoneBusters accusations that 900 number phone call lists were bought by Kupferstein, or his associates?

Guest · Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:58 am Subject:

Thanks Enough for your reponse.

Changing your name here "Educated" to "Sly Fox" to make it look like you are a different person to fool people, doesn't change the fact that you still type your sentences the same way and are still the only to defend "Paul Kuperstein and Associates". Or are you just another associate of this boggus agency?

P.S. Congratulations to your new name - you must be so proud.

Guest · Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 7:00 am Subject:

Another Guest,

Just take a look at this beginning of this thread and you'll get an idea of what this illegal company is all about.

Pokaroo · Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:57 am Subject:

Bingo!! See there are some intelligent people out there. My point exactly. You can change your name and post and until someone with half a brain clues in that "Hey, I think this is all the same person".
Maybe I'm FireFly also!?

Mrs. Sly David

Bear · Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:02 am Subject:

Just a quicky!!
Call any law office any where in the world and ask them to list all of or even some of the clients they represent and see what happens!!

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:44 pm Subject:

I did and and got two emails of client references and 5 references to their website.. 7 out of 7

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:51 pm Subject:

I have been told that these days most legitimate attorney groups, especially those that do collections, have websites. They always have some type of info on their clients too.

Another Guest · Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:16 pm Subject:

I have read every post on this thread and 2 other threads on this website, one of which has over 12 pages posted over several months, Educated has posted on it also. As you probably have guessed, I too have been a victim of the 900 dialer trojan and the antics of Mr. David. Only contacted once, many months ago. PhoneBusters.com told me that Kupferstein buys old phone records and tries to collect on them, some one else has said the same thing on one of these threads.

Guest · Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 7:37 pm Subject:

If PhoneBusters said it then it must be true!! And I absolutely agree, if the Law Office doesn't have a web site - must be a scam.
One last time. I feel badly if you have fallen victim to a 900 phone 'scam'. This poor Mr. David, all he is doing is attempting to collect on files that have been forwarded. He's not the one with the 900 numbers - you're pointing the finger at the wrong person.
Smile, and laugh. Life is far too short.

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 7:48 pm Subject:

It's just amazing that some companies will go to this extent.

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