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Guest1 · Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:10 am Subject:

Very simple request, not complicated at all. Provide the name.

guest · Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:13 am Subject:

Geez can't you figure that out it would be the lawyer Cooperstein

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:01 am Subject:

I would think it isn't. See - Kupferstein is the main lawyer. He wouldn't have the time to deal with such things as securing licenses from states to be a registered collection agent. He would be too busy operating his business, both the CA side and any other legal side. Such a smaller task would be given to another member of the office.

Also - there would be no WAY I can talk to Kupferstein. Janet & Charline have said that you cannot contact him because of his sched. So I feel it is someone else.

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:37 pm Subject:

I'll even go as far as to REALLY tip my hand on this, and tell you what I think:

I think the reason Liability Solutions, Mr. David, Mr. Sargent and Paul Kupferstein do not send any proof of the debt is because that would be the documentation that would go against them in a US court over the lack of a license to collect a debt. There's the written proof that they are attempting to collect a debt in a state they have not registered in, and that's called illegal. So, since they just bought the debt for pennies on the dollar, it's no big loss to them, considering they pocket $2000 or so on other people they scare and threaten for small $300 fraudulent charges they bought for probably $20, if not less.

That's my claim. If I am wrong, I want a debate from Janet or Charline or anyone else at Liability Solutions/Kupferstein. And back up your rebutal with proof, not just name calling. I'll be waiting, but I won't hold my breath.

Intimidated · Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:57 pm Subject:

This should be good. I mean I have thought the same thing once or twice.

If there is a way, they will find it . . . to get out of confronting the situation and actually provide concrete facts about the topics you have raised jedijeff.

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:19 pm Subject:

Ahhh....I love the internet. I finally found the location of Liabilty Solutions/Law Offices of Paul Kupferstein in Google Earth. In a strip mall though???

Sorry if the post is so large....

Elle · Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:00 am Subject:

Janet:

Any word from Sipp yet? I understand if you can't post an answer here, but please feel free to call me at home or at work. I leave the office at 2:00 today. I'll be home after that...

I'm anxious to find out what the deal is with this character. I'm still tempted to file suit. Thanks!

Confused · Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:05 am Subject:

I came on this web site a couple of week ago as guest. As I had recieved a call from this law firm in regards to a debt that I was to have supposed to owed. I thought I could get help. I read a alot that did help. I contacted the company that I was told I owed. They verified that I did indeed owe the money I sent them payment. So for the people that helped that you. But I do have alot of concerns on who is really good at helping on this site. And who isn't. Inregards to jedijeff and Guest1 and a few others. Your continual questions in regards to whether or not they can collect here or there. To me this is just a cop out to get people out of paying their debt. Does it really matter were they are located do we really need to see a picture and If and I mean if you owe the debt and you have not paid it or you've bounced a check this is your fault not the person trying to collect so it really should matter were you live. You make it sound like that if you're from Flordia or Mexico it ok to commit fraud but if the law firm can collect in mississipi than you better pay your bill. But I don't have to because I live here and they can't collect in this state. What make you any better. You owe you pay. I think you just like the attention you seem to get on this site. But I do thank the other people who actually wanted to help.

Elle · Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:08 am Subject:

SORRY!! I meant to re-post the above message because I got an error pop-up. When I went to type in "Janet:" as an addressee, I put it in the "Your Name" spot by accident. **blush** Smile

janet · Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:38 am Subject:

elle I will call sometime today or tommorrow. I am in meeting all day today and in the morning.

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:57 am Subject:

Confused:

I will adress everything in your post, but you have to answer one question for me before I say another word:

Would you send a payment in to a collection agency/lawyer that refuses to send you proof of your debt, which would include the amount of the debt and the company that is owed the money?

Let me put it a different way: I call you and demand you send me $2000 by 3pm via Western Union or I will sue you. You ask who the debtor is and I respond with more threats and jail time if I don't send the money and then hang up on you.

What do you do?

Confused · Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:07 am Subject:

Do what I did and call the orignal company find out what you can. Its your responsibilty to fix your own error. Its between the company that holds the debt and you. But the way I see it your only making yourself look bad and other people by convincing them to forget their debt because you live in a certain state. Whether they can or cannot is not the main issue. So if your really trying to help. Stop all the bashing and suggest they make calls. Not tell them that its a scam. It can cause alot of problems by doing that with peoples credit rating with law suits and in some places depending on the amount of debt jail time.

up the creek · Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:12 am Subject:

Here Here confused I know what your talking about I am in court being sued right now. I listen to people and thought certain things were a scam. Not by this company but another company and I didn't pay. Now I'm being sued and I'm having a hard time getting my mortgage renewed. I will never again listen to someone else about not paying I will research everything. I might not be on time you can only do so much but I will send what I can to keep this from happening again.

Guest1 · Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:39 am Subject:

Interesting how close in times CONFUSED and UP THE CREEK's postings are and how similar their preaching is . . . could it be???? Maybe they work for the firm, who knows???

Apparently up the creek, you didn't get good advice or you misinterpreted everything you read here. jejijeff's postings are accurate, informative and thoroughly researched. I am confident to say that everything he has been posting has been researched accurately and is more likely than not 100% accurate.

From your posting, you have nothing to back up what you say. Interesting.

Word to the wise, always research on your own. This way you can only blame yourself for your problems and will have no choice but to take responsibility for your own actions. You cannot blame other people here.

Elle · Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:41 am Subject:

Janet:

Thanks. Looking forward to hearing what, if anything, has transpired since we last spoke.

Confused and Up The Creek:

I, too, felt obligated to pay off my debt, and had been trying for months. However, I have since found out that the person who retained Kupferstein’s office was trying to scam me out of additional money. He also used an outdated and unenforceable wage assignment to garnish my wages by lying to my employer. He told them that the loan referenced in the wage assignment was STILL OPEN and he was presently trying to collect on it. In reality, the loan referenced on the wage assignment had been PAID IN FULL months before via auto debit (so he can't deny it - I have bank records). Nice huh? He broke the law...big time. Do you think that's OK? Given all of this - I obviously did not have the option of calling this guy to "work things out." He'd already proven that he wasn't interested in doing that.

Now...fast forward to the offensive, harrassing calls I get from "Mr. David" of Kupferstein's office (I still have 2 of his messages saved on tape at home). He threatened legal action on myself and my references over what should have been a $100.00 balance. When I offered to send Mr. David proof of what my real balance was, and proof that his client was lying, he called ME a liar and told me I needed to get a lawyer because he was now suing me for $2,000.

Listen: If you’re going to start threatening me and my family and acquaintances like that, you damn well better be sure you have a license (and a reason!) to do so. So I don’t think it’s wrong of Jeff to have done all that homework. I think it’s awesome. This Firm never put anything in writing. They only CALLED (IN AN UNPLEASANT AND UNPROFESSIONAL MANNER) CLAIMING TO BE COLLECTING A DEBT! Please tell me that you don’t believe people should just send them money without checking them out first? Given my prior experience with their client, how was I supposed to know they were even a real law firm?

Although I truly appreciate all of Janet’s help, it really kills me that some creditors, law firms and collection agencies think they are above reproach and above the law. Yes…I agree…if you owe a debt, you need to pay up. But, by the same token, CREDITORS and DEBT COLLECTORS are obligated to abide by the rules of conduct, and the law, as well.

up the creek · Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:51 am Subject:

look at how close guest1 and elles postings are maybe they are the same person hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
yOu can say what you want and I can say what I want. So guest1 stay out of my conversations. You have nothing I want to hear.

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