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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:33 am Subject:

Exactly, Jeff. What if you tell the collector you have no idea what he is talking about? They tell you you're a liar, and threaten legal action. Then what happens when you back down and send a payment, only to find out that the collector had a wrong telephone number...Or the WRONG john smith?

It's not wrong for us to want proof that the debt is ours, and that the collector has the legal right to collect.

FED UP! · Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:22 am Subject:

G,
Whether you are Mr. David or not, maybe you should take up residence beside his office because you certainly talk the talk and are the only other one besides him and his collegues who defend what they call a business. AND furthermore, just curious, what are you doing on this forum if you are not here for advice? I concur with JEFF W and Jessi comments. It doesn't take much to provide documentation that is all people are asking for - do you understand that G - it's common sense!

FED UP! · Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:25 am Subject:

P.S. How is it that you can state this is a Law Firm not a boggus collection agency? Do you have proof? Your comments seem to shady to not wonder if you are connected to this company.

G · Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:02 am Subject:

You are angry and I empathize with you. I'm not taking sides, I'm just trying to understand where all this anger is coming from.
Jeff W. I would like to assist you, but I need some information. Could you please provide me with either the U.S. State, or Canadian Province in which you reside. I don't need your last name, but just confirmation that your first name is Jeff.
G

Guest · Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:03 am Subject:

G,
Why do you need to know Jeff's information? Who are you and what can you do?

Guest · Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:36 am Subject:

Your scare tactics not working anymore Kuperstein & Associates (aka Mr. David, etc). that know you'll trying being nice (reverse technique) to make it look like you care in order to get money by whatever means. I think playing the "we're here to help you card" is old and you are a sheep in wolfs clothing. Just provide the people with the appropriate documentation and you would have had no problems in the first place. If you look around on these forums, you will notice that you may be the only so-called "firm" under the gun here - I wonder why that is . . . . Probably because you are a fraud. Legitimate lawyers don't hang out on the forum defending themselves they get the job done properly and legally unlike yourselves.

Another Guest · Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 11:50 am Subject:

You are a liar, G. You stated "These people have had many oportunites to repay the companies that they were (are) indebted to". That is not true in all cases. The ONLY opportunity I had to pay on a bogus 900 call (placed after my modem was hijacked) was in ONLY one of my phone bills. The charge was verified as being reversed by the billing agency that represented the 900 company, as well as my local phone company. Let me remind every one how these dialing trojans work. They silence your modem so you can't hear them dialing and they bust through 900 blocks that you might have on your phone, such as in my case. In other words, they're very malicious. I see no difference in them and some one breaking into my home and using my telephone. Again I ask, I'll ask you also, G, what do you have to say about the accusations of Paul Kupferstein and associates buying up old phone records from 900 company's and trying to collect on them?

G · Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:31 pm Subject:

Please at least try to understand. No old phone records were ever purchased. I'm not sure why, when or where you may have received this information. Debt files are forwarded to the Law Office for recoveries, that's all. If you were truly scammed, it wasn't by the Law Office it was by the provider of the 900 service.
JeffW asked a question and I have offered to assist this person. I don't think it matters who I am. I regret the fact that I can not let my true self be know do to the fact that you all seem to be far greater evil harrassing people than this Mr. David.

ENOUGH · Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:32 pm Subject:

G-you're going to help Jeff though you aren't Mr. David or associated with the law firm? That's interesting.
This forum isn't about complaining. It's about helping others who fell or may have fallen victim to this scam. It hopefully stops people from sending money they don't owe. This forum lets people know what agencies etc to contact if they have received threatening calls from Mr. David.

G · Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:58 pm Subject:

I've never admitted nor have I denied being an associate of the Law Office. You are absolutely correct, I hope people don't send anyone, any money they don't legitimately owe. You're placing your blame on the wrong source. The Law Office has a job to do, and that is to recover money. Files are forwarded and then recoveries commence. Every tells collectors that they didn't do it, or it was fraud, or I have no knowledge of this debt, it wasn't me. The job of a collector is to recover money. If you feel they have contacted you in error than you need to contact the company that forwarded either the Law Office or collection agency.
You are all so convinced that 'you've been scammed', and the easiest target was Mr. David.
I won't bother anymore, because I'm listening to you, but you're not listening to me.
Be Happy.

Guest · Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:18 pm Subject:

That's right! You haven't admitted that you are or are not Mr. David - all you have done is change your name but definately not the way you express yourself. How many times does one have to repeat themselves!!! PROVIDE THE DOCUMENTATION TO PROVE THAT WHAT YOU ARE HARRASSING PEOPLE FOR IS ACTAULLY VALID! It is so simple what don't you understand - you seem to be avoiding this topic in every posting you type! Have you got an answer for that?! In regards to your comment of "if we were truly scammed, it wasn't by the law office" then why is it that your so-called law office cannot when requested provide any documentation?! Don't give me an answer of contact the people who hired you because if they hired you, you would have all the documentation they have and could provide the same. In addition to your other comment about how you cannot identify yourself because you feel like you are being harrassed - WELL HOW DOES IT FEEL - the tables have turned - doesn't feel good does it - something makes me think you couldn't give a damn anyway. Don't avoid my questions as I as well as I am sure others think they are valid and deserve a response.

G · Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:33 pm Subject:

No, for some recoveries agencies and/or law offices are provided with very little back-up.
I'm not Mr. David - move on please.

G · Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:55 pm Subject:

FYI, I do give a damn. If I didn't I never would have initiated communications.
If it's any consolation, many of the 900 service providers that were running scamming operations are no longer in business. I myself was the victom of such an operation and was contacted by a company attempting to collect money that I wasn't aware I owed. I am now comforted by the fact that these operations are slowly but surely ceasing to exist. Unlike yourselves I didn't pounce on the company that contacted me to pay money I was sure I didn't owe, I did my homework and realized that the provider of the alleged 900 number service was cramming. (billing people without providing any service) I moved on, and this is what I'm attempting to help you do as well. However, I am failing miserably. Should you wish to converse with me in a mature, adult like fashion I will continue my attempts to assist.
I know someone out there in Never Never Land will slam me again for this response, please save your fingers the abuse of slamming the keyboard.
Again do remember that our time on this earth is short, enjoy.

FED UP! · Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 3:27 pm Subject:

I am sorry but I don't believe that - it doesn't make sense. If you were a law firm representing a company - you would ask the client for every bit of documentation you require to get the file closed - I know this because I used to work for a law firm. As asked in a previous post, what is it that YOU think you can do to help? Are you going to contact the boggus company and miraculously get them to provide valid documentation? Are you going to take their abusive calls for us? Be real. Do you not think that people have done their homework? Most people (as you can tell from this website) did their homework and found out the horrible stories of Paul Kuperstein & Associates, Mr. David etc. and thankfully never sent a dime. So you see "G", homework has been done by many who don't owe a cent and are being harrassed - the boggus company can't prove it and then move on to another victim. And in regards to the people who do owe money, NO ONE deserves to be treated the way these people operate - PLAIN AND SIMPLE!

AND ONCE AGAIN, you truly avoided the question of why they cannot provide documentation with a lame reasoning being "some companies just don't get it". Who the heck operates a company like that - a boggus one!

Like I said David or not, you talk the same talk.

Jonathan · Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 3:34 pm Subject:

I agree with FED up! "G" is trying to sugar coat and have an "I'm your friend and here to help" attitude.

Have you not been listening or reading the stories in this post about Mr. David??? They are true.

You are but (1) including Mr. David who seem to be defending your comments/actions and I am sure we'll have yet another post from you trying to justifying why yuo are doing so. Give up, you're not going to convince anyone here.

G · Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:44 pm Subject:

That's okay 'Fed Up', you don't have to believe me. I don't believe any of the crap posted on this forum either.
No need to respond to my post, as I'm quickly realizing - blue collar is simply not worth communicating with. You'd be far better off screaming your reply out your front door.

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