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If you and your computer have ever had the misfortune of being attacked by a Trojan Dialer specific to 900 numbers, you more than likely have been dealing with the likes of EBSI (Enhanced Billing Services Inc) & Integretel (Both are Billing Aggregators) from entries on your phone bill. They are representing the internet scam outfits such as MMI Communications , Information Services and Live Interactive to name a few.
Unauthorized and evasive charges have been placed there by these organizations via the malicious dialer which accesses international 900 number sites. The only time when you are made aware of this activity is when you receive your monthly telephone bill.
The general rule of thumb is: when you challenge these bozo's (Aggregators) after their uneducated telephone reps accuse you or someone else in your household of accessing pornograhic websites, they tend to back down and credit your account (without any word of apology of course). You would tend to believe that this was the end of the matter.

Not so I am afraid, because waiting in the wings, months later are the lowlife bottom feeding debt collectors. These unsrupolous characters buy up old telephone records and debt from even more unscrupolous vendors and go after for what they can get. This is where you may have had a call from a Mr.David or others threatening you with lawsuits, disconnecting your phone line and further harrassment, without fully identifying himself or their client, which is the law.
If you do not challenge this moron on initial contact he may stay on the line long enough to tell you he represents the law firm of a Paul Kupferstein & Associates. Otherwise, he hangs up. The phone number they tend to call on is (905) 474 3535. Investigation of the number gives the address as follows:

Liability Solutions Inc
4981 HWY 7 East
Unit 12A, Suite 267
Markham, Ontario
L3R 1N1 Canada

Thats right Canada, They are also located at several other addresses including PO Boxes, and they are all located in the Markham area. They tend to move around a lot! For peace of mind call the RCMP Phonebusters 1-888-495-8501 or Recol 1(888) 495-8501 hotlines (same number) and your State Attorney General. The Law Society of Upper Canada are also very interested to hear from you. (416) 947 3310. They and the RCMP are very much aware of the activities of these scam artists in their area. This is total fraud and none of it would stand in a court of law. They are preying on vulnerability and fear using scripted scare tactics. Just ask your Attorney Generals office.

This thread has been started to put a case history together on victims and consumers they have targeted. If you are a victim please highlight your case on this forum so that we can get a portfolio of sorts on these crooks, and present it to the relevant authorities, and for general peace of mind. The more people who make complaints the more likely they will get investigated and have their illegal operation shut down. Take note they will infiltrate this forum with bogus victims who apparently ended up paying them after going through the courts. It does not happen! For further information on Kuperferstein and Co. check out further listings about them on this website through the following link:

http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/forums/about2990.html

LANDI4787 · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:46 am Subject:

I contacted a local tv station to see if they have heard of this scam. They said they hadn't and would investigate for me. They called Mr. David to find out some info and he said that he represents about 60 different companies and wouldn't really say anything else. The reporter also contacted the Texas Attorney General and found out this firm is NOT a licensed/registered collection agency in Texas. The AG's office said that there are alot of scams coming out of Canada targeting the US. The story aired on tv twice this week.
I was wondering if anyone has ever thought about going after the companies who placed the 900 charge on our phone bill as well?

FireFly · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 10:15 am Subject:

This is the sort of exposure these crooks need. I can confirm they are also being investigated by media sources in other States and Canada.
Yes to persuing the likes of EBSI and their likes. However, I also believe the regular telephone company who's bill was the consumers first alert to this activity should be brought to task for allowing these predators to hijack a service (telephone line) that they provide to you under contract. If enough consumers keep hammering on the big guns door they will eventually have to take action.

Guest · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 11:31 pm Subject: Class Action Anyone????

If enough people come forward on this site including future visitors who have had to deal with these scavengers, a class action suit is a very viable option.
It would be interesting to see the rats run from behind the elusive Kupferstein, who more than likely lives in an exclusive area of Ontario, not too far away from Markham!!!!!!!

Guest52 · Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 1:08 am Subject: ESBI

There is a rumor going round that the idots in Markham are ripping off ESBI!!
Watch this space!!!

A victim · Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:52 am Subject: Another harrassment

2 months back Mr. David called my number and threatened a lawsuit. Unaware of anything related to a scam and afraid of them ruining my credit history, I send them the required amount. They said they will send some documents which they never did. I called them several times, and later I came to know that they are a scam. I was embarrassed so much for being stupid and ignorant. The money I sent initially went to Paul Kupferstein's bank account: TR#19962-004 0025-7302010. This account seems like a private account.

If they call you, ask them if they are from Liability solutions and hopefully someone is noticing. It has been quite some months and it is surprising that they are still operating.

I also want to thank the people here for providing this forum for exchanging ideas.

Guest 19 · Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:51 pm Subject: Kupferstein

I also was contacted by these criminals a while ago. I called Markham Police & The Law Society of Upper Canada. Canadian police told me to call my local sheriff since the harrassment actually took place in the US. Law Society said there's nothing they can do. No wonder these people are still operating. Canadian authorities are way too soft on criminals like this. Kupferstein & his crooks would already be behind bars if they were located here in the US. Still glad to see people warning each other & exchanging information here in this forum. DO NOT PAY THESE CROOKS. They will use every method known to mankind to intimidate you and get you to send them the money. Once you do, you'll never recover it. They are fraud, DO NOT pay them. Inform your state attorney general & local news channels if you can.

LANDI4787 · Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:12 am Subject:

I am really frustrated right now. I contacted the Law Society and filed a formal complaint. Within a few weeks, they sent me a letter stating they are closing my file because they have already started an investigation. According to phone busters, they have received hundreds of complaints. I would really like to know what exactly the Canadian agencies are really doing.The attorney general of my state said it's really hard to go after these animals because they are located in Canada. I have filed a complaint with the BBB, FCC and FTC. I have also contacted 3 different local tv stations. These scumbags need to exploited as they have tried to exploit us. i feel like I've hit a brick wall right now.

Sandra Kays · Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:22 am Subject: Mr. David

I just got scam. I was ready to pay it and then decided to google the name.

Guest · Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:45 pm Subject: Cooperstien & Associates

Thanks for all the info. I was contacted today, Dec. 29, 2005 by Mr. Cooperstien's office. They were very
intimidating. Therefore, they are still working hard at rippin off people in the US. I am from Ohio.

R. Hillz

Knew this was a scam from the start when phone calls started coming in august this year...just got another one after about 4 months. Mr. Sargent this time. I do believe they are going after everyone they humanly can in Ohio. Just please people dont be stupid, do not pay them. If they are ignored then eventually they will go away. If you get to talk to them on the phone, just tell them you know its a scam and you are recording this conversation for a counter-claim of harrasment. From listening to my answering machine over and over again, I think all their calls are recorded messages through a voice synthesizer. Kin da shady and kinda illegal and unethical. Shame on you.

Steve Friedberg · Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:49 pm Subject: MMI Communications

Quick headsup, folks; I'm with MMI Communications, a corporate communications consultancy outside of Philadelphia. Unlike what Firefly posted up top, we have NOTHING (repeat, NOTHING) to do with Paul Kupferstein or any 900 phone service. We've placed a notice to that effect on our website. (If you do a search by "MMI World Communications," you'll run into the outfit that Kupferstein's law firm apparently represents.)

In fact, if a lawsuit is ever filed against him, or if other legal action is taken, I'll donate some of my time, at no charge, to help publicize it. Best of luck, folks.

Firefly · Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 4:41 pm Subject: Apology

Steve: many apologies for the typo on the name.
You are indeed correct "MMI World Communications" IS INDEED the outfit in question and NOT: 'MMI Communications'.

There seems to be a maze of different players and organizations involved in this ongoing scam. They have no regard for innocent people and businesses going about their daily business. Consumer awareness is the purpose of these postings and hopefully some level of success has been achieved.

Many of us are with you on shutting these predators down.

Regards

controller7 · Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:22 pm Subject:

Steve,
FYI, you should be aware that MMI Communications appeared on my June phone bill as the company that the phony 900 charge was billed on behalf of (I just double checked). It wasn't until I did searches on the internet of the businesses involved that I discovered MMI Communications is indeed a totally different company than MMI World Communications. The phone number associated with the company listed on my phone bill matched MMI World Communications, not your company. I don't know if I'm the only one who's phone bill appeared that way, but I doubt it. I also don't know if it has tarnished your company or not but I thought you'd be concerned.

Best wishes!

Tammt Canadian · Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 1:34 pm Subject: Kupferstein

I encountered Mr. David of the law offices of Paul Kupferstein this morning, actually looking for my former partner... short story is that it smelled like a collection agency, came up empty on the 905-474-3535 number I got via *69 (he hung up on me, I wanted to know where he got my name & number as a contact). Called Consumer Protection Agency, they confirmed he was registered with them, was a lawyer and gave me the correct spelling and told me to complain to the Law Society. I decided to do a Google search first, and look what I found! I am really embarrassed, as a Canadian, that this jerk is still being allowed to carry on! AND he's a teacher at Humber College in Toronto! I intend to pursue this with Consumer Services, Upper Canada Law Society, RCMP, phonebusters, my Member of Parliament, BBB, and see if I can't get a journalistic investigation going, I know a couple shows which air this kind of thing - right up their alley. For that matter, perhaps this also needs to be brought to the attention of some of our Ministers, it does affect US - Canadian relations, after all... hmmm...
I will post again with specific contacts, either phone or/and online, and encourage everyone dealing with this twit in ANY context to complain!
Collectors are not allowed to harrass, intimidate or threaten and are supposed to contact the person by mail first. They must identify themselves, their company and who they are collecting for. All collectors must be registered with Consumer Services, who will pursue complaints, and who do have an investigations branch - speak up, force them to act and shut this bozo down!

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