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Replied on 04-13-2006, 11:25 AM
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Ari, i can't seem to find anywhere in the fdcpa thing anyhting about email correspondence...am I blind?

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Replied on 04-13-2006, 11:29 AM
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No, your not blind. It's not there YET because the fdcpa was written during the Carter administration before e-mail was invented. Collection attempts via e-mail are a violation of your privacy rights and that is the violation of the FDCPA.

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Replied on 04-13-2006, 11:34 AM
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aha....gotcha. I think, as I mailed my first payment to my DC friday, I will wait and see what happens. I spoke with my DC and thy told me that the yare sending proposals and payments out by the end of the week. I responded as such to the sweet and caring Ms. lawson, so let's sit back and see what happens

this Forum has given my knowlegde, which has given me stregnth and power, and therfore, patience. I refuse to let these guys get me panicked anymore...she is spewing hot air....let her go

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Replied on 04-13-2006, 01:01 PM
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I would tell her that she is violating the fdcpa, the laws of your state and that you have forwarded her emails to your state attorney generals office for there use. I would let her have it in a civil, professional and take no prisoners

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Replied on 04-13-2006, 01:44 PM
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You will be doing the right thing. Payday loan collectors recieve 50% of the collected debt as a gratuity from the payday loan place. A commission, if you will, and the biggest hypocrites in the world are payday loan collectors. They will guilt trip you and dump on you for having debts, but then they take everything they earn and spend lavishly. When I worked at Protocol, I worked with people who drove brand new mint-condition sports cars while I still have my beat-up Hyundai (my Millennium Falcon, she may not look like much, but has it where it counts).

Keep the original loan amount in mind and pay only that. Payday lenders tend to tack on exponential interest and penalties which is another violation of the fdcpa.

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Sub: #22 Attorney Got Involved Today
Replied on 04-13-2006, 04:35 PM
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My attorney called on him today. Never should have come this far. But I guess that is what happens when you deal with an extortionist, lol. We'll see what happens.

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Good thing your attorney is now involved. The problem is, collectors don't usually fear lawyers. Many of them expect your lawyer to talk you into a settlement. I hope your attorney can get all the extortion fees waived. No reason why he can't.

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Replied on 04-13-2006, 07:38 PM
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I'd also suggest that you copy this e-mail with the full headers (ie., which show the route from whom and where it came from). Most online and e-mail programs allow showing these.

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Replied on 04-14-2006, 04:45 PM
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Right on! I think those print up automatically anyway since they are part of the e-mail. How stupid can this company be? They are just screaming to be punished with these foolish and unlawful practices. Can't they read? The fdcpa is NOT difficult to understand.

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Sub: #26 PD6 Ventures/Express Cash
Replied on 07-19-2006, 08:28 AM
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Does this company go by another name? I am now starting to receive e-mails from this person and I am a little miffed.

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Replied on 07-19-2006, 09:33 AM
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I realize from reading the profiles (of the few that bothered to post them) that most, if not all, of the board moderators aren't lawyers. But putting aside the fact that it's illegal in most states for non-lawyers to give legal advice, at least the moderators here could refrain from giving WRONG advice.

Example - On this topic, two different moderators have chimed in to declare that e-mails from collectors are a per se fdcpa violation.

Think about it. If e-mail collection attempts are a violation of the FDCPA simply because someone MIGHT type an incorrect address . . . then all written communications would be illegal. After all, someone MIGHT write the wrong address on the envelope. Or someone's roommate MIGHT open the letter by mistake.

The problem with that analysis though, is that the most of the FDCPA deals with the content and timing of collectors' communications. It is designed to protect the debtor's privacy and prevent abuse. (Examples: Restrictions on contact with third parties; defining and punishing harassment, etc.)

In contrast, very little in the Act addresses the specific form that collectors' communications may or may not take. Where these do appear, most apply to both written or oral communications. Nothing in the FDCPA forbids the use of written communications, including e-mail, except in certain certain circumstances. In fact, the few restrictions I see that are specific to written communication cover the use of postcards (which would clearly violate privacy) and using letters that look like court orders or other pleadings. (A form of misrepresentation.)

A lawyer would have asked the following, at the very least:

1) Did you provide your e-mail address to the original creditor as a means of contacting you?

2) Was this your personal e-mail or one provided by your employer?

3) If it was your employer's e-mail, does your employer have a policy against receiving personal e-mails and, if so, did you inform the collector of this policy?

4) Have you notified the collector - in writing - that you refuse to pay that debt or that you wish the debt collector to cease further communication with the consumer.

5) If you did give the collector this written notice, have you received any communications since?

The lawyer would also have told you that even if you did give the written notice described in question #4, the collector is permitted to send you one final, written communication for the following reasons:

(1) to advise the consumer that the debt collector's further efforts are being terminated;

(2) to notify the consumer that the debt collector or creditor may invoke specified remedies which are ordinarily invoked by such debt collector or creditor; or

(3) where applicable, to notify the consumer that the debt collector or creditor intends to invoke a specified remedy. If such notice from the consumer is made by mail, notification shall be complete upon receipt.

Frankly, I've been doing practicing law since 1994 - including representing debtors in bankruptcy and creditors in collections - and I can't tell you whether this e-mail violated the FDCPA or not. I would need a lot more information to do so, some of which I described above.

I'm not sure how these moderators can reach the conclusions they reach without that information. I think this board is great for helping people pick up strategies and tactics for their own dealings with various collectors. They're equally important as a source of exchanging information about the creditors themselves. (It's amazing how many, especially the pdl's don't have bona fide addresses and phone numbers.) But whenever someone starts handing out legal advice, watch out.

There are many laws that you have to sort through when you're in this predicament - FDCPA, FCRA, state debt collection laws, Right to Financial Privacy Act, Graham-Leach-Bliley Act, etc. Fortunately, the yellow pages are full of attorneys that offer free consultations. I urge everyone to call a real attorney if they have legal questions.

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Replied on 07-19-2006, 12:03 PM
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Hey Jedi Mistress, which agencies are offering 50% on payday loan paper? If they really exist I need to send out some resumes.

I've been in the business for eight years and have never worked anywhere that offered more than hourly rate plus a monthly bonus if I exceed my quota. Both third party and first party. Only the way they figure out the bonus changes. It's never been anywhere near 50% of what I collected.

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Replied on 07-19-2006, 02:42 PM
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It was Protocol Recovery Service, and their contract with Cashland and Cash America offered that percentage. Unfortunately, their Pensacola office just kaputzed and they only have Panama City and Atlanta left.

Preserve your dignity and send your resumes to a student loan collection agency.

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Sub: #30 PD6 ventures
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I have had a pay day loan with PD 6 ventures for going on 6 mos. now and I can't seem to find out how to contact these jokers to repay the darn thing. Can anyone shed any insight on how to contact these people??

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Sub: #31 XpressCash.com
Replied on 08-17-2006, 02:58 PM
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XpressCash.com keeps sending notes to my home that offer me a new loan. I don't remember ever taking a loan out with this company--although it is possible (a couple of years ago, I got sucked in and made a couple of bad decisions). They want me to check the box if my bank account is the same, or provide my new bank account info. And "by signing below, I am agreeing to the terms of my previous loan agreement."

I looked them up on the web today, and their website (www.xpresscash.com) isn't even coming up.

What do you suppose they're up to?

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Xpresscash is not a good loan company to do business with. If you are not in need of any loan, ignore this offer and call them to remove your name from their system. They must stop their marketing calls.




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