Companies threatening to sue us - Heathmill

Posted on Sat Jan 21, 2006 1:29 am

Our customer care department received this email on January 10, 2006. Someone from Heathmill wrote to us and requested to remove some forum posts that involve their name with Cash Today or Cah2day4u. Here is the email that we received.

Here are the forum posts they are pointing perhaps:

http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com.../ctl-info.html

http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com...llections.html

Now, as all of us know, debt consolidation Care is an open forum. It is the place for all to share their views and thoughts. The posts in the forums solely reflect members' beliefs and we cannot dictate you on what you should think. Hence we replied them:

Then they sent another mail on January 17, 2006.

But how could it be possible? The clarification statement posted by someone from their concern is still live in the forums! You can see the “Clarification Statement by Heathmill” posted by (info@heathmill.com) here:

http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com...ections-1.html

So we responded to them:

Now it completely depends upon the community to decide what to do next. If we remove these posts, Debt Consolidation Care forum will definitely lose its flavor and people will lose the opportunity of debating and share their opinions. I cannot live in such a world where I do not have the right to speak, what about you?

Vikas, at least we have got their attention. Perhaps then if they are concerned about the posts they would be willing to assist in stopping their customers (ICS, Cash Today)from violating laws and possibly exposing them to liability.

Also, it might be interesting to have them take actio in US courts, the evidence that could be gathered during discovery would be a goldmine in finding ammo for a class action lawsuit against ICS and Cash today.

In otherwords, DO NOT CAVE IN.. FIGHT THE POWER (as "rage against the machine's "Guerilla radio" plays in the background.

I agree with this. Debt consolidation care forum is an open platform for all. Anyone can post their views and comments here. If heathmil has some valid point against the discussion they can post it here. It will help all of us understand the reality. Removing posts will increase the confusion and people will miss the place where they can discuss their problems.

Creditors and collectors, this could be a good resource for you too. You can seriously take these posts to your quality control department and analyze consumer feedbacks. It might help you understand what consumers expect from you. Once you can identify where the gap is, you will definitely come up with a better customer service.

Sounds like they are using the same tactics on the forum as they due on their debtors Threats! I think that if in fact the two companies are actually affiliated with Heathmill, then why should it be removed....only because they don't want everyone to know that they have to keep changing their name all the time. So, if nothing untrue was said, then it should stay...if there are any false statements, then they can be individually removed. Just my two cents.

Thanks for the support . I will post all such mails to the forums as any harm ( ) to debtcc means harm to the community involved. IMO community members should know everything happening with debtcc.

Vikas,

I agree with you one hundred percent. With research and help with the forums, I have been able to get help with my debt issues and even stay two steps ahead of some lenders who are using illegal means to collect a debt.

Our customer care department has received two more mails from Heathmill. Here is the update-

Mail received on Feb 2, 2006

Mail received on Feb 15, 2006

What is your response to them? anti semitic? don't recall reading any of those... Also I wonder.. If they litigate they would have to file suit in the US. That would open them up to discovery...allowing their actions to be scrutinized in open court..

JJ thanks for your concern. We received a 10 page legal cease and desist letter from their law firm.

We have posted it here at (warning: big pdf file needs acrobat pdf reader): http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com...mandletter.pdf

and also we have put the individual scanned images at:
http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com...mill/page1.jpg
http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com...mill/page2.jpg
http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com...mill/page3.jpg
http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com...mill/page4.jpg
http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com...mill/page5.jpg
http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com...mill/page6.jpg
http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com...mill/page7.jpg
http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com...mill/page8.jpg
http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com...mill/page9.jpg
http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com...ill/page10.jpg

We are taking advice from http://www.eff.org and http://www.chillingeffects.org

The notice ID at http://www.chillingeffects.org is 3458

We will respond to them once we get some legal advice.

I personally like Jews and appreciate all the contribution to humanity that they have done. I am really shocked to have been accused of anti semitism.

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