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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:56 am |
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Source: http://www.wtvq.com/
| Quote: | | If the bill becomes law, the website operator would have to pay if someone was allowed to post anonymously on their site. The fine would be five-hundred dollars for a first offense and one-thousand dollars for each offense after that. |
Whats your opinion about it? How is one going to validate a user who really wants to be anonymous?
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:14 am |
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I might agree with the law including an online rgistration with address but I do not think that your full name should have to be included in the post. The user name would be able to be tracked through the registration of the user if it became necessary. People might not be inclind to speak up out of fear. I also think it would be next to impossible to track the millions of posts that "guests" would provide. I'm all about trying to cut down on harassment but there should be a better way.
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:18 am |
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question?would that apply to blogs,threads,and homepages?
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:55 am |
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I think it's a good idea for the website admin to know who is posting on their site. But I don't think that the person's full name should be public. I think if this bill passed the way it is it would be the death of most message boards and online communities.
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:57 am |
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I agree with Goudah!
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:08 pm |
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This is absolutely the biggest crock of sh*t to come down the wire since Al Gore invented the Internet! It's stupid, and it's unenforceable. It's also unconstitutional. See Talley v. California, 362 U.S. 60.
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:16 pm |
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hmmm like we don't have better things for our elected officals to worry about
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:28 pm |
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Well....... Fortunately, the PIQ [pinhead in question] isn't my elected official. Unfortunately, some of the elected officials here are just about as bad.
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:55 pm |
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Well I am from New York - need I say anymore
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:07 pm |
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Spatt - don't feel bad, i bet there isn't a state that hasn't had an elected official in some sort of scandal..I know oregon has, though our scandal never got the publicity that New York gets.
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 5:57 am |
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Well, I don't think it's a violation of their first amendment rights. Your still saying what you want to say, it would just be that everyone knows who is doing it. As to the validation, it would be tough. Perhaps require a credit card? I don't see the bill getting passed, it would create too much hassle.
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:23 am |
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| Quote: | | Your still saying what you want to say, it would just be that everyone knows who is doing it. |
There are many members who don't want to disclose their real identity (neither to forum members nor to forum managers). I had always respected this request from members.
Such a law will kill the original strength of Internet (act anonymously). I also understand that it might clean up (rather stop) some section of Web.
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:17 am |
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Good point as always Denny, I forgot about the part of the proposed bill that would require users to post with their real name, if this applied to all forums then it could pose a threat to minors.
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:34 am |
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| spatterson_40 wrote: | | Well I am from New York - need I say anymore |
Nah, Spatt. That pretty much sums it up.
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:27 am |
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I don't agree with JCEMT since even the current Supreme Court is very protective of the first amendment. (About the only thing I like about it . . .) A law that exposes posters to retribution, i.e., harassment suits by well-heeled payday lenders and collection agencies that can afford $500 an hour lawyers, "chills" (one of the court's favorite verbs) freedom of speech.
Of course, the law would have to pass and someone would have to be charged and then fight it to get it in front of the court. Hopefully, the ACLU or something like that would pick up THAT tab . . .
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