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Ok....Just to let you guys in and some info that is missing that may have confused the thread.Someone come on here using my nic with an ugly addage to bash people including BEAUTY and myself.I was a mulitpul substance abuser incuding METH,COCAIN,any kind of pills I could get my hands on and was a bigtime DRUNK!!!Some stories sound to good to be true I admit.NOONR knows until they have walked the "trip" arm and arm with that person ad seen every move they made. I have been free of ALL my vices for 2 years now and did it on my own(with the help of GOD).My story is so unbelievable to tell because nobody would believe it happened.MANT treads in this post has been deleted because that person told me to stick a meth pipe into my 18yr olds private part nd called me ugly names.As far as a felon being accepted into the services it can happen te a judges orders as well as the service they are trying to enter.It happens all the time.I know this because my dad was former millitary and had to deal with those types of cases.Time lines are kinda screwie but I believe this girl and feel that she has a lot to offer people in her situaion.She can give these people hope.
The U.S. has done resurch on meth users and oly 6% recover with treatment.My husband and I did it wih no rehab.Only prayer and GOD's will.It is an everyday fight.But it CAN be done.My exhubby had a $5,000.00 a week cocain habbit and I chose to leave him because I saw our lives going nowhere.We clean for ove 11 years until I fell into the drinking seen and then came the pills and wala...METH.If you can break the cycle and have the will to commit to a clean life and live for yourself first, then the happiness and joy of the Clean Life will be enough to live happy and serving the Higher Power that held my hand throught it all(whom I never thought HE was there) and Nothing,I mean NOTHING can put you back there.I tried to use this site to help get mine and my husband's debt problem cleand up and found tooo many people working against each other.I found that it was not productive enough for me to come back. I am a strong person for all I have been through and did not take the bashing that was dished to me to heart until he used my helpless daughters to insult me and try to cause more harm.I told Denny that I was sorry for keeping this thread going with all the trahs he was dealing but it was to get someone to acknoledge that it was going on.I also applolgised to him because if a new comer were to read it maybe to would run them off thinking that this was a trash talk convo site and was actualy not put here to help people with debt problems. I choose to not come bach here for help nor do I intend to tell other people (good or bad) to use this site in hopes that they are not treated as I was be it by a member or a guest. It should not have taken over 18 hours for someone to clear that problem up.I know I have only been here a few times since 8/06 but I did get help from BEAUTY, and Jason deleted as much as he seen.Denny cleard a few also and there have been appologies.I thank you for that.I just hope you have not lost other people while the obsinity was taking place.Hope noone is hurt. God bless you all and thank you for your time. Gina R Green aka minkeye_ aka mink

ps Hope everyone has much joy and love on the Happy Day of the birth of my LORD JESUS CHRIST! God bless and wishing all the most wonderful life.

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:39 pm Subject:

God Bless you Gina and keep faith and hope alive

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:42 pm Subject:

Thank you Ashely

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:56 pm Subject:

Any time there is a venue which is available to the public at-will, there are going to be people who don't bear a respect for the venue's purpose.

Every person who can get on the internet can come to this site and post whatever they want. There are bound to be screwoffs out there that just want to have some fun at someone else's expense.

If we cower in a corner and let them walk all over us, then they win. When we give them resistance, then they go find some other web forum to harass.

My point is, every person on this forum has probably had poignant remarks made about them. We tend to take it with a grain of salt and go on to the next post. If we all got offended and stopped coming here, then there would be nobody here to give advice and "our streets" would be running rampant with hooligans.

I'm sorry that things escalated to the point they did; nobody's family should be a part of it. But I do think that Denny and Mike and the moderators acted as fast as they could. In your eyes, 18 hours was too long; but there are other forums that don't edit the explicit content, and those comments could still be sitting there if this was one of those sites.

The moral of my story is "sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me."

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:11 pm Subject:

You obviously id not understand my point. I was not hurt in anyway and tried to make that lear. I made that coment to try to help this site out. I am a stronger person than that.But no real mother would or could stand back and let someone tell them to stick a meth pipe in their daughter's 'V' and it not effect them. If so then I would question my own heart.Speeking of morals...how is it you can filter out some things that may be offencive to some people but others seem to miss the mark of out right hainess disgust such as sexuial acts to a child?

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:31 pm Subject:

My understanding is that you did not care about the bashings until your daughter got involved.

I also understand that you do not believe it should have taken 18 hours to have the remarks removed.

For those two reasons, you will not be returning to this site and will not recommend this site.

Without trying to seem utterly uncaring: he did not use your daughters name, nobody knows who your daughter is, her identity is concealed; she really is not a part of this, except in your head. Our guest simply put the words "your daughter" and "vag**a" together in the same sentence in order to get to you. You let it get to you. Now we're all a bunch of perverts who advocate disgusting sexual acts against children. Sorry. If you can get so worked up over this, then you should turn on the parental controls against yourself and stick to sites like PBS.org. In fact, let's shut this site down for fear that someone might say the V word again in the future.

I do not have any authority to filter or edit the posts made here. If I did, I would have deleted them. Our moderators are not paid to be here, nor are they required to be here 24/7. The fact that it took 18 hours to get removed is modest, compared to the fact that on some sites it would never have been removed.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:59 am Subject:

I completely understand your point Debtcruncher.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:00 am Subject:

Forgot to add, I do not believe Beauty's story. That isn't to undermine this poster's story.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:03 am Subject:

Also forgot to add, this is a public forum. And anytime we post personal information about ourselves we leave ourselves open to attacks. But that does not mean I condone what was posted in any way. It is just something to think about. There are people our there who have nothing better to do than to hurt others by disprespectful insults.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:57 am Subject:

Amen Debtcruncher & Steelers...

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:03 am Subject:

This is so true Smile

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:54 pm Subject:

I'm sorry about the comment that was made about your daughter..That is truly disgusting. That forum is one that I moderate. Another mod pmd me to let me know there was some nasty stuff in that thread, and I got there right away. I'm sorry I wasn't there faster, I really am..But I work a full time job, have a husband and son, and have other hobbies as well. I'm on this board an awful lot, I just wasn't here then. I'm sorry.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:06 pm Subject:

Debtcruncher, you do have a point. I understand the comment made about your daughter, minkeye, was crude and completely assinine, but as debtcruncher said, if we all decided not to come back here, then we've given these creeps the upper hand and they can just run amuck with no one to stop them.

I for one appreciate all the hard work and effort that went into creating and making this site what it is - a place where people in debt who have nowhere else to turn can go to vent and even get advice on how to deal with their debts. Obviously, the people who take this site seriously are very compassionate people who are dedicated to helping others. Denny created this site in good faith with the objective of helping others. He and others have put a lot of hard work into making it what it is and I for one appreciate the opportunity to come here to get and give help.

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:36 am Subject:

I for one DO believe Beauty's story, I know it to be the truth. Those of us with similar pasts understand how things work in the justice system. Boot camp does not necessarily mean military. You can be sentanced to Boot camp in most states. It is not military run.

I wish that some of the people on here would stop attacking other members. It's disgusting to see good members that have helped others attack newcomers.

Now another member that could possibly help someone in the future is leaving. Someone comes here for help and gets treated like crap.

This site is here to help. If you don't believe someone, just ignore them! Don't start a fight and bad mouth them all over the board. It's immature and childish. People come here for help and to help others.

Let the board serve it's purpose!

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:32 pm Subject:

I do not believe or dis-believe anyone's stories. On the issue of Minkeye, yes, she came here for help. I also believe that she instigated and provoked the "guest" and drew herself into the attacks. Guest's attacks originally were not directed toward her, until she kept responding to his lewd comments. At that point, since nobody else was in that post for Guest to bash, he directed his insults toward Minkeye.

I agree she did not deserve that, but if she would have let it be and just left/ignored that particular post, she would not have become involved as much as she was.

Now, in this particular post, I found flaws in her logic. I attempted to address her issue with my own impartial reasoning.

She then became disgruntled with my response and alluded that I did not have morals. I again responded, the second time with a bias. I do not intend to treat a person like "crap," if that is how it comes off; I just intend to defend my postion.

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:06 am Subject:

Debtcruncher - I meant the guest was treating her crappy . . . . . I think the best solution in a perfect world would be for people to just ignore anyone making rude or unwanted comments. I know that won't happen, but it would stop all the threads with fighting going back and forth, as this isn't the only one. I think your posts were very appropriate.

My response wasn't directed just towards this thread, and I should've made that clear. I don't know if it's the stress of christmas or what, but a lot of people on this board seem very quick to jump at people lately (I am not refering to anyone specific, just the fact that there has been a lot of unnecessary fighting unrelated to helping people with debt).

I don't know where all the anger is coming from, but we all need to stop the fighting and get back to helping each other.

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