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Johnie · Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:41 am Subject:

Can she go to Social Services and to a Women's shelter? If your babies father is a good and decent man, maybe he'd help out until you can get your life together. You need to think of what's best for the baby first. Go to a church, usually they will help in a crisis, or at least help make sure the baby has diapers and formula.

guest · Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:46 am Subject:

Can't you got to a woman's shelter for help? If the babies father is a good man, maybe he or his family would help out until you can get your life together.
Also, a lot of churches will help with things like diapers and formula, etc. You can put the baby in the Foster system until you can prove you have your problems
corrected. I have a lot of friends who are Foster Parents and they keep children while parents are getting their lives back on track.

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:12 pm Subject:

Isn't Fullerton a subburb of Chicago? Not that it matters, but I hope that LaTonia seeks help for her baby, that is the number one priority.

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:41 pm Subject:

Nice to see you kolodin! I was wondering how you are doing? Any updates? Yes, Fullerton is in Illinois.

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:26 pm Subject:

Sorry but I dont believe this is real......

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:31 pm Subject:

I'm beginning to think you might be right tweety. So far she has said nothing back when asked what she's going to do now that we've all given her advice on what to do. I just always like to give the benefit of the doubt with something like that on the chance that it could be real and someone could really need the help. I hope if on the off chance it's real that she does get help for herself and her baby. Nothing like that should be allowed to happen.

Johnita

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:10 pm Subject:

The store she is talking about does exist in Illinois and its owner has been convicted of a misdemeanor for shady business dealings. The city of Chicago would not renew their license back in 2004 for that reason but they continue to do business in other counties. It is still a difficult thing to swallow though! She has not been back to respond to the last couple questions!

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:11 pm Subject:

This is EXACTLY why I have asked the OP...twice...to tell us what her plans are now that we've given her advice and invested time in her situation.

I was not trying to be mean or hateful, but we have seen this happen before - we get stories that are almost believable, but kind of riding on the edge of too incredible to be true.

No response. She was pretty much johnny-on-the-spot about responding before, but today is Monday, the day she was supposed to go and "tell them a thing or two"...

For the child's sake, I really hope it's NOT true. I'll leave it at that.

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:12 pm Subject:

I am with you SueBee

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:21 pm Subject:

I just want to say that it isn't rare for people to post, keep up with it for a day or so, then forget about it.

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:26 pm Subject:

look into help for gambling problems should be a help line depending on what state you live in

Guest · Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:45 pm Subject:

Fullerton, Illinois is south of Bloomington basically in the middle of the state. Near there is a large lake name Lake Clinton. I found no listings for riverboat gambling anywhere near this place.

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:50 pm Subject:

When I respond to a post, I don't expect anything in return. I offer advice, posters can take it or leave it. I don't feel that a few moments of my time require anyone to let me know what they are doing with the information I offer. Personally, I would rather take a few moments, offer to help and know that I have done my part. Whatever her reason for not responding to a post or two is just that, her reason. I do hope though that if she legitimately needs the help she is seeking, she finds it. No questions asked, no response required.

Guest · Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:55 pm Subject:

I pray that she get some help for herself and her child. If she has a problem only she can ask for it no one can do it for her. Sometimes it will take someone to hit rock bottom in order to realize that they need help.

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:36 am Subject:

I am confused...This person is asking for help for her baby or for herself? I see that she said that she is afraid of losing her baby, but my question is, would the baby be better off with the dad until she gets this situation straight? As a parent, if your child is truly your number one priority, then their safety is number one as well and if you can't provide that safety and someone else can, then that may be the best place for for the baby. If she is going and, I am guessing providing "services" to people for money...then that is prostitution, right? I am not judging or condeming anyone, but don't you have to really want to get out of a situation before you can get out of it? isn't it easy enough to say don't go and borrow the money? If she is having to "do favors" in order to pay for her gambling problem, then I would think that is endangering the baby and I think that the dad has a good case to get the child, provided he is a "good dad". I'm sorry, I just know that there are so many people out there that want a baby so badly and then you see people that God has blessed with this special little gift and they are throwing it away. Again, I am not judging...just concerned for this little child. Am I being judgemental or condeming? I don't mean to be and forgive me if it sounds that way. Please. I am just so worried over this little baby that I don't even know. The thought of a child going without food or diapers just puts me in dispair. I would be willing to donate food, clothes or diapers to this child. Not money, because I am not going to be an enabler to help with the gambling problem. But I don't believe the child should suffer for their parent's decisions.

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:32 am Subject:

If this sad, sad story truly is real, I wish the best for her and the baby. She may not have access to the internet consistently, she may be visiting a library or friend's house to get on the internet and can't get on to answer questions... especially with the situation the way it is... who knows she might have hocked the computer to get outta town.

There is nothing worse than being in an abusive situation and not knowing where to go or what to do. I can relate to the small town situation, I grew up in one, and most problem issues (domestic violence, child abuse, gambling or other addictions) have a bittersweet ending. You can feel scathed in the town of everyone knows what your issues are and it's a rarity that you find someone to help you. Most people have the "My name is Bennett and I ain't in it" attitude because they don't want to come off as meddling or put harm into there lives.

If this lender is as shady as LaTonia says he is, its common that he probably has the townfolk wrapped around his finger and most people are afraid to step up to him or assist someone who needs help.

I definitely agree with the previous posts, especially if she wants to keep her child and receive help for her addictions.

~Seek Help outside of your town - Even in other state, there are quite a few domestic violence places that will assist with moving out of the state, especially if it's life-threatening

~Get A Protection/Peace Order - Once you have help from an Abuse center (House of Ruth, Illinois Domestic Violence Help Line- 877-863-6338, WitnessJustice [dot]org) they will show you how to get a peace/protection order

~Get Into Addiction Counseling - All kinds of addictions can eventually get you into more trouble than its worth. As you can see, your relationship with your daughter is affected, your relationship with people around you is affected and your general view of who you are as a person is affected. Remember you are NOT alone in this, you are NOT the only person with an addiction and Gamblers Anonymous will help.

~Get Rape/Forced-Prostitution Counseling There are many other women put into predicaments where the men they are around force them into certain situations to make them feel that giving them sex or forcing them to pay debts through sex is the only way out. You are better than that and stronger than that, believe you are. Women are precious and no one can take that away!

~Go To The Authorities - Once again, once you have FIRST established safety, stability and security for your daughter and yourself ... then you can start the road to make sure that this doesn't or isn't happening to someone else. Tell the state authorities what they are doing and give them ALL the information you have on this guy. If it's not you, it will be some other helpless girl and that saddens me when people feel they can just take advantage with any repercussions.

~Most of ALL: HEAL - If you believe in God.. pray, read your book of choice, go to church/mosque/temple/mass or what have you and seek services from them. Many places have assistance for women coming out of awful and desperate situations. Continue through counseling and continue your support system. Even if it's just updating a few lonely strangers on the internet who have concern for yours and others situations.

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