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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:46 pm Subject: Geneva Roth....strikes again!

Guess who found my new bank account??? Guess, go ahead, you'll never get it! RIGHT! Geneva Roth. They have debited once and I got it refunded, then, today another 400 plus 30 for the first (NFS) from getting it back, of course it was under a totally different name! So, I have done the paperwork today to get my money back, AGAIN!!! and then will be moving accounts AGAIN!!!

I have been so tedious with my acct # and cards, nothing online, etc.....Don't know how this happened at all. But I am sooooo sick to death of it all !!!

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:49 pm Subject: reply

WHAT!?!?!?! Shocked

Geneva Roth got your friggin new bank account information? From a totally new bank? Am I reading this right? Shocked

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:16 pm Subject:

Oh yeah....I'm freakin out here! This is twice in the last two weeks. The first time took me a solid week to get my money back and now I'm dealing with it again.
Cannr, I haven't done anything online, etc. I haven't used my card online or my account number. I don't know how this happended. But now I have to deal with no bank account again. OMG!!!! I'm ready to quit!

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:17 pm Subject:

flow-WTF??! HOW????

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:18 pm Subject:

flow-How long has it been since you closed the other account?

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:20 pm Subject: reply

bflow, if I am remembering correctly, you are at a completely different bank now from when you had the pdl's, right? Completely different. Right? I'm wracking my brain trying to figure out how in the hell they got your new account information. They would need your new routing number and new account number. I'm sitting here trying to figure out what could have tipped them off to your new bank.

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:34 pm Subject:

I don't know how. You know how freaked you are, imagine signing on to the internet banking and seeing GENEVA ROTH 400.00! OMG!!!! I thought I was rid of thosed nasty ***es! NOT!!!!!

The other account (at a totally different bank) was closed in July (but technically once they let it sit and acquire all those od fees for the 30 days they leave it "active" but "open") I guess it was Aug! And lovely bank that I was with for 10 years REFUSES to help with getting my balance back to 0, even though I have ALL the backup to prove that I did all me revocation of debits, etc... in plenty of time to make it right! LIFE IS GREAT RIGHT NOW!!!!

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:40 pm Subject: reply

With luck, goudah or someone (anyone?) can give us a hint as to how the hell they got your new bank account information. I would have shit if I saw that. bflow, this sucks. Are you going to have to go through all the trouble like you did before to get a new account? WTF? I'm sooo confused right now. How the hell did they get your new bank account information? This is making me crazy. I'm so sorry. But someone here has to have at least a "clue" as to how this pdl can track down your new account number at a new bank. What avenues do they use? We need to know.

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:46 pm Subject:

I wish I could tell you, at least then maybe I would know what I did that could have put my account number out there. My husband asked me about that spyware stuff or if I had gotten any type of phishing emails (which I just delete anyway). I don't know.
Thankfully, he has his own checking account and we can use it for deposits. But our bank, they buttholes that wouldn't take the fees off is sitting at 1100 overdrawn and have put it to the telecheck system. So, due to that we can't write checks at ANY type of store, etc. Just use our card but that's better than nothing I guess. RIGHT?

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:25 pm Subject: reply

I know your old bank was a bunch of jerks. But if you can't write checks, I guess that's okay if you have a debit card. It still sucks though. I still am in total disagreement with your old bank; however, who am I? Laughing

As for your new bank and being debited by geneva roth. You know what? I would actually call and ask them how the hell this illegal company got your new account information. They may have some "insight" as to how illegal companies can find new bank accounts. This needs to be known. This is just bizarre.

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:31 pm Subject:

I don't know, but I am really sick from all this. Like you don't have enough to deal with already with the fact of trying to get out of this mess in the first place.

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:22 am Subject: reply

Please let us know the status of everything, bflow. Sad

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:57 am Subject:

Bflow, this is one of the things that scares the hell out of me, and I am hearing it more everyday. New banks being hit by PDLs. I wonder how they do get the new info.Every person that this has happened to swears that they have not given out the new info.I know I keep mine under lock and key, but I still do nit feel safe.

Darnell · Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:00 am Subject: Geneva Roth

I wrote a post about the same issue a couple days ago and they also got access to my new account. I dont know how and I have a feeling I still owe them but legally what can I do as far as Geneva is concerned since they try to do an unauthorize debit to my account. I have a feeling if anyone apply for a new payday loan some kind of way your account information is sold over to different companies. I think what happen to me and what happen to bflow is geneva roth prolly got your name ran a check and found you have a new account prolly through about PDL site. Now I got to figure out how to deal with geneva roth. Morally if I owe I will pay it but since they did an unauthorize debit what to do what to do.

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:14 am Subject:

This is just unbelievable. I have been taking most of my money out of the bank as soon as I get paid because I am so scared that this will happen.

I think what might be going on is this. Some banks will do a hard pull on your credit report when you open an account. Since the PDLs have access to our social security number, they can then pull our credit and see if there are any banks on there. If they see one, they might just take a random chance and try to fish the information from an inept employee. That's the only logic I can come up with. Bank account numbers are supposed to be extremely safeguarded though.

I can't believe that we are going to have to be afraid for the rest of our lives that these bloodsuckers are going to hit our new accounts. This just can't be possible.

Darnell · Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:32 am Subject: geneva roth

Jen5276,
I believe it definitely starts with our social security numbers. I got an email this morning from Geneva Point/LoanPointUSA saying the withdrawal for $400 was returned due to NSF and to give them a call. Im trying to get a solid plan in mind before I call these people and go off on them. I dont need to go off on these people but I got one thing I got to check out before I talk to Geneva and that my old bank account with geneva and also check out the original agreement I did with Geneva. I didnt have the money in my account so the only charge i got charged for is an overdraft fee from my bank but now I know geneva is lurking around my account so now I got to be alert on what to do as far as my account is concerned. If its determined I still owe them (and i think i do) I will do Western Union and only western union. They are slime and I hate that I had to deal with them.

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