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ACH - Trying to minimize irregularities of payday lenders


ACH or Automated Clearing House may be referred to as the network for financial transactions which is conducted electronically. This network is spread throughout United States of America. Debit as well as credit transactions are processed by ACH in bulk. All ACH transactions are governed by the Federal Reserve as well as NACHA-The Electronic Payments Association.

Participants of ACH transaction
The following are referred to as the participants of an ach transaction.

  • Originator:
    A corporation, an individual or an entity that is responsible for initiating entries into the ach network is referred to as an originator.
  • ODFI (Originating Depository Financial Institution):
    ODFI is a financial institution that is responsible for originating ach entries. The ODFI functions in accordance with the NACHA operating guidelines.
  • Receiver:
    A corporation or an individual who authorizes an Originator to initiate a debit or a credit entry to a transaction account.
  • RDFI (Receiving Depository Financial Institution):
    It may be referred to any financial institution that has agreed to follow NACHA Operating Rules and Guidelines and has qualified to receive ach entries.

ACH Transaction Process
  1. The Originator gets an authorization from the Receiver.
  2. Once the authorization is received, the Originator forwards the transaction to ODFI.
  3. The ODFI is responsible for sorting as well as transmitting the file to the ach operator.
  4. The ACH operator in turn distributes the ach file to the RDFI.
  5. The RDFI prepares a report after making the funds available to the Receiver.

  6. The Federal Reserve has centralized application software that is used for ach transactions. The software is known as FedACH. Ach process is widely used by the Federal government as well as the commercial sectors.

    Importance of ACH Transactions:
    Some of the areas where the ACH transactions are used include the following:
    • E-commerce payments
    • E-checks
    • Business to business payments
    • Federal, State and local tax payments
    • Direct deposit of payroll, tax refunds, Social Security as well as other benefits offered by the Government.
    • Loans, Utility bills, insurance premiums, mortgage bills
    This system has been widely used by the lenders throughout US. It has been observed that due to the ACH transaction, the illegal activities of many payday loan companies could be stopped. This may be attributed to the fact that an authorization from the Receiver is required to debit money into an account. Similarly, an authorization is also required to credit money into an account. This has stopped several payday loan companies from carrying out fraudulent transactions.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:51 pm    Post subject: ACH - Will it put a stop to the irregularities of payday len

Anyone have any experience with them, I looked them up on the Dept. of Finance, but they didnt have any info on them.


They just called me and said that I owe them $340 on a $200 dollar loan, and I have paid them $70 so far, can they ask for that much I am in Wash DC
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:08 pm    Post subject:

If you mean BIG ACH, then they are not licensed anywhere and are based in the UK. They have no legal recourse for the loan that they gave you.They will call you a hundred times but that is about it. You really only owe them the original $200 that you borrowed and you have already paid back $70.00 of that. I am sure that many more people will get on here to help you out.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:16 pm    Post subject:

jaydanielle, on the ach loans is it B.I.G ? please let me know
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:17 pm    Post subject:

you mean to tell me that ACH is the same as BIG Ltd??? WOw I had a loan with BIG that I never finished paying, because I had already overpaid them!!

Wow, I wonder how many names do they have, they called me from a 305 number, and they dont seem to have a fax number

Has anyone had any success with them??
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:18 pm    Post subject: r

ACH? Is this a new one BIG is using?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:18 pm    Post subject:

if it was a 305 number than I really doubt it was BIG...what was the number that called you, if you still happen to have it
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:20 pm    Post subject:

the number is 305-800-1000

and the website is achloan.com

i dont think that that is BIG
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:24 pm    Post subject: r

Called the phone number. Not a good number. Looked up the name under BBB. Nothing. Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:24 pm    Post subject:

Probably not, mine was called BIG ACH when it came out from my account. I have never heard of just the ACH one.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:25 pm    Post subject:

I googled that number and it's not BIG, it is coming from florida and the people are complaining that whoever is calling is spanish and very obscene.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:26 pm    Post subject:

yea on my acct it says payday trans

but the website is achloan.com
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:39 pm    Post subject:

this is what i just got from them

The Loan Agreement, to which we have adhered to by funding the loan, detailed that your loan was subject to the Arbitration Laws of Ireland, a fact by which you confirmed your understanding and acceptance of via the online signature you made. Please note, we are not a US company, have never prescribed to be a US company and have no US presence, as such are not subject to the US laws you detail. Please refer to your copy of the Loan Agreement. Under the terms of the Agreement you consented to make payments via ACH until the loan was satisfied in full. Your loan account is currently in default as your first payment was returned unpaid. We will continue to make all reasonable attempts to make contact and to attempt collection of all funds due and payable to enable the loan agreement to be satisfied, as per the original provisions. Regards, Liam K Customer Services
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:58 pm    Post subject:

what should i do now with this information??
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:15 pm    Post subject: r

Ireland??????? Holy crap! Shocked What you can do with this information is take into consideration that this will NOT be a legal loan. Ireland???? And they are not subject to US laws? Alrighty then! YOU are subject to US laws. So basically, as long as they no longer have access to your account, they can hang out in Ireland and email you all they want to. File complaints against these illegal people. Ireland??? Good Lord.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:12 pm    Post subject:

Wasn't Sonic Payday in Ireland? Could this be a new ACH of them?
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