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that is the hole in there little exemption.they have actual addresses for all there d/b/a's.the problem is there supposed main address is that p.o. box in miami.that is only a mail drop.they don't have an actual presence there.that is why so many gov't agencies consider them illegal.that is why they won't do anything of substance.


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Agreed. Most of their d/b/a's use that MIAMI, OK address as a cover. I haven't heard of the setting up shop in an actual state off the reservation. Hey, but let me not speak too soon, you never know what MTE and MNE guys are plotting next

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i want it back in my account and never to be taken out again



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Joyce the only way to stop them is to close your account.

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This post is in regards to someone saying they have sovereign (Tribal) immunity. I made a lengthy topic about this discussion, for which I refute the claim about sovereign (Tribal) immunity (using U.S. Supreme court rulings). Also, to the poster saying that if they go off tribal land they waive their immunity... this is not true. For immunity to be waived they must FIRST do this, but this alone does not waive immunity. Too many U.S. Supreme Court rulings have upheld immunity regardless of whether it was off tribal land or not. Anyway, like I said I countered his/her claim to not fight MTE by disproving the court ruling he/she quoted.

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Wouldn't you just be better off going after the company that actually runs the lending companies instead of going head to head with the tribes? The whole thing is a sham. A Kansas payday lender that was in business for years before the owner ever heard of the Miami tribe, found out about the immunity thing and hooked up with a couple of tribes. The tribes just rented out their names and their immunities for 30 pieces of silver and the real lender makes a fortune.




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good theory,but as long as the lender is connected with the tribe.they get the immunity.it stinks out loud,but until the feds pull that immunity they are exempt from penalty.

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I am concerned, as in other posts, I get information that MTE Financial dba's are One Click Cash and USFast Cash. Is this true? I have two loans one with each entity. I sent my ach revocation letter and keep getting nasty emails from them they are now trying to debit the full loan value from my account and tack on all kinds of charges.

Am I dealing with two internet PDL's that might try and use this tribal immunity??

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Cash Advance Network and Paychecktoday.com are also part of MTE. I believe Ameriloan may also be connected.

Dont worry about the tribal immunity AZ law states they need to be licensed.

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What difference does it make what AZ law says if state laws can't be enforced against Indian tribes?




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then those indian tribes really can't take action against the consumer now can they?as of now they haven't and i don't see them doing so.



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Paul you are dead on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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That's your rationale for telling people they don't have to honor their contracts? The tribes haven't sued people before so you can probably get away with it? The tribes didn't have a court decision in their favor before. I'd be curious to see if they don't get a lot more aggressive now.




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so,you are the one from the other thread.let me explain it to you.

1)there have been court rulings before concerning this illegal pdl company.
2)to sue they would have to serve people with an address that is not a p.o.box
3)once that's done,if the address is not on tribal ground.this illegal pdl opens itself up to a countersuit.which they will lose.


4)to sue they would lose there flimsy immunity.
i hope that was made somewhat clear.now scat.this place is still illegal and won't do a thing.the next time they do will be the first time.as far as my first point goes.that means others have tried before to take legal action.it proves nothing except they keep there stupid immunity.

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THe tribes are Illegal. Major court ruling in WV. Citizens of WV got refunds.




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thanks guest45.i was just coming on to tell that,and also 5 states have issued C&D orders to this pdl.also when the judge in this case ruled there was no MTE represenative there.they basically filed there exemption defense without an actual person in court.so to actually sue.they would have to leave there flimsy fantasy tribal ground for the reasons i outlined above that ain't happening.oh the states that have C&D orders for MTE are.
oklahoma(ironic huh?)
nebraska
new mexico
indiana

ok that's four not five,but count all the states where pdl's are prohibited.i just don'tput alot of weight into a flimsy decision by a limp court about an action by a low branch of state gov't.sorry,to me it's illegal business as usual for MTE.they can't therefore won't do a thing.except call and be stupid.




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