Phone Calls From Debt Collectors- What Do I Say / Sample Validation Letter

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Sub: #1 Phone Calls From Debt Collectors- What Do I Say / Sample Validation Letter
Replied on 02-07-2011, 10:39 AM
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How to deal with collection calls:

1.) If you receive a call from a collection agency, DO NOT admit to owing the debt over the phone, as far as you are concerned it's only a voice over the phone and should be treated as such until you are certain (documentation) they are legitimate and following the law!

2.) You are protected by the FDCPA (Fair Debt Collection Practices Act), these laws are designed to protect you from scams, therefore you should exercise your rights.

3.) Ask the voice on the phone; their name, the full name of the business (ask them to spell it), their address, and a direct telephone where THEY can be reached, next, proceed below.

4.) Tell the alleged debt collector they have 5 days to send you a dunning letter (also known as a letter of collection)
through the mail, tell them you are counting the days and keeping a record of all communication to make sure they are complying with the federal law (FDCPA).

5.) If the debt collector refuses to give you any information that is a BIG RED FLAG. Do not give them any of your personal information, do not admit to owing any debt, and do not discuss anything over the phone.
File a complaint immediately with your state attorney general and the FTC.

6.) If and when you receive a letter of collection, you will send them a debt validation letter, certified, return receipt requested, it is extremely important that you send the debt validation request certified. You can obtain sample debt validation letters in the DIY section of this forum.

7.) It is VERY important that you respond and dispute a letter of collection within the 30 days of receipt, don't take any chances, send the debt validation letter immediately, make sure you date it and keep a copy. Again, keep a record of all communication a collection agency attempts to make with you.

8.) Educate yourself on the FDCPA.


This is a sample debt validation request letter for a collection agency of illegal online payday lenders. This letter should be sent after you receive a dunning letter (letter of collection) in the mail. Anytime you receive a telephone call demanding payment for a payday lender (3rd party collector) you should tell them you will not discuss this matter to a voice on the phone, instead, tell them to send you a letter of collection through the mail within five days of their first initial contact, or you will file complaints against them with the FTC for non compliance of the FDCPA laws.
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Your Name :
Your Address :
Your Phone # :
Creditor's Name :
Department :
Creditor's Address :
Date :
Dear (Insert Name Of Creditor)
I received your letter of collection dated (insert date). Pursuant to the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, 15 USC 1692g, I hereby inform you that I dispute the alleged debt associated with account # (insert account number), (insert name of creditor) being the original holder of this debt.
Per the FDCPA (Fair Debt Collection Practices Act) I am officially requesting that you properly validate this debt, I am entitled to receiving the following documentation:
1.) Explain the nature of the alleged debt - that is, what the money I allegedly owe is for;
2.) Please provide an explanation of how you calculated what you allege that I owe;
3.)Please provide me with copies of any contracts or documents which form a basis for the alleged debt; and
4.)Please provide me with the name and address of the original creditor.
I further request that you take the following actions:
Please contact any credit agencies to whom you have reported this alleged debt, and inform them that I am disputing the debt.
Under the FDCPA laws, you are required to cease ALL collection efforts with me until this debt is properly validated, if you fail to follow the law, non-compliance of my requests could result in serious legal suits and hefty fines. I WILL file complaints with the following organizations; Federal Trade Commission, the my State Attorney General, Better Business Bureau, and the (Insert you state regulator for collection agencies), I will be keeping a written record of all communication attempts made by your company and report it promptly if you do not adhere to the law.
Except as specifically outlined herein, I am requesting that you cease all contact with me about the alleged debt. Any further contact should be strictly in conformity with the FDCPA: It should be limited to providing me with the documentation requested in this letter, informing me that you have ceased collection efforts on the alleged debt, or stating that you are taking a specific action in relation to the debt such as commencing a collection lawsuit. Any further contact should be made in writing, and should be submitted to my home address by mail.
Sincerely,
Your Name



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Hey Shazzers... Thanks for this informative post

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This is awesome, many thanks....

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Sub: #4 state regulator for collection agencies
Replied on 02-09-2011, 07:00 PM
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How do I find the state regulator for collection agencies in PA? Thanks!!!

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Sub: #5 What to do if you receive a suspicious debt collection call
Replied on 02-10-2011, 11:38 AM
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If you receive a suspicious phone call regarding an outstanding debt, here are what you should say and do:
  • Ask the caller to provide official document showing the debt you owe.
  • Don't provide or confirm information about your bank account, credit card, social security number or other personal information over the phone.
  • Call your local law enforcement Agency.


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Sub: #6 How to contact PA Regulator Agency for debt collection
Replied on 02-11-2011, 11:27 AM
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Payday loans are illegal in PA, but you can contact the PA Dept of Banking. They may be able to help you or refer you to the appropriate agency.

Here are their contact info:

Pennsylvania dept of banking
Phone: (717) 214-8343
Website URL: http://www.banking.state.pa.us/porta...ing_home/14319


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Replied on 02-24-2011, 10:00 AM
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The first post says to not provide any documentation - the debt collector that just called me wanted to know my address. I gave it to the last company that had this account and am getting tired of passing it around. Should I provide it to this new company to get the dunning letter or should they have it since they bought my acct from another agency?




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Replied on 02-24-2011, 11:07 AM
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If they are legit collection agencies they should already have that information, you should not need to provide it. I would ask them what address they have, if they state that they do not, then obviously that's a big red flag.


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Replied on 03-14-2011, 01:55 PM
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Maybe you should also outline that not!!! All and not even most collection companies are scams and may be calling to help you figure out options or inform you of a debt.... Posts like this persuade people to fight against their obligations and not pay their debt.... Oh just so you know a collection company cannot give details such as why they are calling or their company name unless they confirm they are speaking to the intended party.... Otherwise its a third party disclosure violation




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Replied on 03-14-2011, 02:04 PM
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mcgriddle is a humanoid as no legit collector or employee of legit collector has a problem with this at all.only bottomfeeders,and the humanoids they employ object to info like this being bought to light.btw a legit collector also would not have to dance around the third party disclosure issue.back to the phones with you.

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Replied on 03-14-2011, 02:52 PM
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Well maybe you should read the fdcpa again because it clearly states giving the name of the company or informing of the intent of call should be avoided unless they are speaking to the intended person... Im not sure why your insulting me as i was just trying to fill in the holes you left with your post....
-just trying to help people instead of give them reasons to fight




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Replied on 03-14-2011, 07:22 PM
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Maybe you should also outline that not!!! All and not even most collection companies are scams and may be calling to help you figure out options or inform you of a debt.... Posts like this persuade people to fight against their obligations and not pay their debt.... Oh just so you know a collection company cannot give details such as why they are calling or their company name unless they confirm they are speaking to the intended party.... Otherwise its a third party disclosure violation
I have no idea what you are talking about, your poor grammar is difficult to interpret.





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Replied on 03-15-2011, 04:36 AM
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to #11 no you are not trying to help as again a legit collector won't leave the following on people's VM.

1)if you do not call a decision will be made without your knowledge.
2)this is an important business matter
3)this an important legal matter

btw the idiots who call with those messages spoof or block their true number from peoples caller id,and never sent anything to the person.again you are not trying to help.you are trying(rather poorly i might add)to cloud the issue. GET LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Replied on 03-15-2011, 12:50 PM
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i just got off the phone with a man named "charles" from 713 422-2752 (1 866 402 4043 was the number i was to call back). He left a voice mail saying just as the others have said was told to them; important business matter, have me or my attorney call back.

I called back and he asked if I was who he was looking and had me confirm my social sec. number. He then went in to say he could put a hold on the interest and late fees on a payday loan from years back. Also that i had a debt of over 900.00 because of late fees but also that i was making payments. he then went on to say i could settle the debt 2 ways
1. payments over 3 month period
2. a lump sum of half the balance
when i informed him i could do neither due to my income, he said i could close it by Friday for 200.

i just want to know if its a real place that would actually clear the debt and can i still only pay the 200 after (if at all) i receive something in writing; or a scam and i would still have the debt and be out 200 bucks.

thank you and hope it a makes sense.

i live in Texas by the way.

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Replied on 03-15-2011, 12:58 PM
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I'm not sure who is talking about leaving a voice mail... oh wait i get it.... you're getting lost in the conversation because you're trying to play World of Warcraft on your second monitor. I hope the people who come to this post seriously reconsider taking advice from these guys.
... as far as the poor grammar, maybe you should give a lesson to paulmergel.




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Replied on 03-15-2011, 01:04 PM
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oh so the post above yours should just be paid?again quit clouding the issue humanoid next post is deleted.as for#14 do not pay them just by illegal threats as saying their is a suit and he will hold it is illegal.file a police report for the call as again what they said was illegal.next use the numbers you have to file AG,AND FTC complaints.above all else ignore MCGRIDDLE humanoids like them are a penny a dozen.wish i had a dime for everyone like them.btw i think world of warcraft is for idiots.i'm better than that,but the reference shows your humanoid colors.post junk like above again and it's gone.a couple of other things chris.texas is not only non-garnishment,but anyplace has to post a bond of 5-10,000.00 to even collect.if they have not posted that bond then while they can call and be stupid they can't sue you.if they do bringing that up will get it tossed like a salad.

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