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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:29 pm Subject: pdls in tennessee
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I have 9 pdls and can not seem to get rid of them i live in tn and all are online pdls i get rid of one and have to get two to help with the bills and now i am a month behind on my mortgage, please help
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jonnajamie
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:39 pm Subject:
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Hi there -
Here is your state's payday lending law:
| Quote: | Tennessee State Information
Legal Status: Legal
Citation:
Tenn. Code Ann. ยง45-17-101 et seq.
Loan Terms:
Maximum Loan Amount: $500
Loan Term: Max: 31 days
Maximum Finance Rate and Fees: the lesser of 15% of the check or $30
Finance Charge for 14-day $100 loan: $17.65
APR for 14-day $100 loan: 459%
Debt Limits:
Maximum Number of Outstanding Loans at One Time: 3 (2 per licensee)
Rollovers Permitted: None (cannot renew or otherwise consolidate)
Cooling-off Period:
Repayment Plan:
Collection Limits:
Collection Fees: One $30 NSF Fee; Court Costs
Criminal Action: Prohibited
Where to Complain, Get Information:
Regulator: Tennessee Department of Financial Institutions
Address: 511 Union Street, Suite 400 Nashville TN 37219
Phone: (615) 741-2236
Fax: (615) 532-1018
Regulatory Contact: Bart Daughdrill, |
If you can post the following info, we can help you with advice on how to get out of the payday lending cycle:
-name of all lenders
-how much you borrowed from each
-how much you have repaid so far to each one (including any fees or interest)
-whether they are internet or storefront based
We can help you - just hang in there and post that info - then we can help a little more.
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:06 pm Subject:
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they are
ameriloan 350.00 paid 105.00 in finances
loanpointusa 300.00 just reactivated this one have not paid anything
gfsil global financial 275.00 have paid 240.00 fiannces
the cash spot 400.00 have paid 100.00
little loan shoppe 250.00 have paid 75.00 this one said that i would pay 75.00 ten times and it would be paid in full
stcadvance 200.00 just took this one out not paid anything yet
paychecktoday 250.00 have paid 75.00 finances
tendollarpaydayloan 300.00 just reactivated this one have not paid anything yet
oneclickcash 300.00 have paid 360 finances
and all of these are online
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jonnajamie
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:19 pm Subject:
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jonna, many of your pdls are unlicensed/illegal. Have you looked into closing your bank account? This is the first step in dealing with these pdls, okay? You need to regain control of your money. Once you have your account closed/blocked and have a full paycheck again to pay your bills, we can tackle these pdls. I'm going to post something regarding closing your bank account. Please read this and post ANY questions. We need to get your account "safe" from these guys debiting it any further.
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:20 pm Subject:
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| Quote: | Before you close your bank account due to payday loans eating away at your paycheck, please read this.
Some banks have a policy regarding ach transactions that allows them to force open closed accounts if any ach transactions go through within a certain time frame after the account is closed. This can leave you owing a legal bank $1,000's and reported to chexsystems, instead of owing barely legal (or not at all legal) payday loan companies. Not a good thing. Ask your bank what their policy is on ach transactions on closed accounts before you close the account. It's best to go in person and talk to a branch manager.
If your bank does have this policy, tell them your situation. Don't be embarrassed. Take letters with you showing that you have revoked authorization for each of your payday loan companies to debit your account. Tell the bank to put your account on deposit only, an ach block, or a hard hold before they close the account. Your bank can do one of those, don't take no for an answer. This will prevent any payday loan ach's from reopening the bank account.
It'a always best to close your bank account. Leaving it open gives ways for the payday loan companies to continue to take money out. These companies have many different dba's, so blocking them won't work. They will also produce paper checks and run them through your account. Closing the account is the best way to prevent these companies from taking money out of your account.
Some state laws do allow for prosecution if you close your bank account, but that is usually in cases of fraud. But it's always best to check with your state's attorney general or department of financial institution before you close your account. You want to make sure you are not causing more heacaches!
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:21 pm Subject:
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jonna, we can help you here!
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:39 pm Subject:
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ok how do i get in touch with the state's attorney general or department of financial institution? What if my bank doesn't want to help? once my bank account is closed then what do i do? I owuld like to keep using my same bank is that ok?
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jonnajamie
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:29 am Subject: you might want to change banks
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someone should be able to help with contact info for your AG.as far as the bank,you should open a new acct at a different bank,too easy to get your new acct #.even if it is different.
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:00 am Subject:
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do i need to close my account first then send letters to the pdls? how much should I pay to the pdls? what kind of letter do i need to send? i would really like to stay with my bank, i have been with them for 15 years. how do i go about complaining to the AG, BBB?
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:05 am Subject: reply
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yes that is recomended.as far as the ammount goes.you are only obligated to pay back what you borrowed.
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:19 am Subject:
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Email to and from TN Banking Dept
Hello,
I'm trying to make sense of the payday loan laws in Tennesse. How would I go about calculating the allowable interest?
Thanks!
Response
From: Steve Henley
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 1:08 PM
To:
Subject: Re: calculating pdl interest
Dear Ms , technically it is not an interest rate but service fee and this is how it works. The fee cannot exceed the lesser of 15% of the check amount or $30. So if you have a check amount for $100, the service fee would not exceed $15 (15% x 100). Keep in mind the fee is on the check amount, not cash amount. If the consumer requests $100 in cash, the check amount would be $117.65. The check amount of $117.65 x 15% equals $17.65, and cash is $100 ($117.65 - $17.65 = $100). If the customer asks ... "how much should I write the check for if I want $50?"
You can back into the check amount by taking $50 and dividing it by 85% or .85. In other words $50 divided by .85 = $58.82. You can verify by multiplying $58.82 x 15% = $8.82 service fee. $58.82 - $8.82 = $50.
Remember the service fee is limited to $30 on all checks exceeding $200.
I hope this helps but please let me know if you have other questions.
615-532-6993 Steve Henley
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Hello,
Can you tell me if internet based payday lenders with no physical location in TN need to be licensed by TN to lend legally? Or would they only need to be licensed by another state? And which state's laws would they need to follow?
Thanks!
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From: Steve Henley
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 8:12 AM
To:
Subject: Re: Internet Payday loans
Dear Ms , our statute does not address internet activity, but to obtain a license from Tennessee the entity must first have a physical location in this state.
Please let me know if you have other questions.
615-532-6993 Steve Henley
What does this mean?
They can charge 15% of the face value of the check in fees.
Rollovers are not allowed.
Internet companies do not need to be licensed by TN. As long as they are licensed in another state they can lend legally. They must follow the laws of the state they are licensed in.
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:25 am Subject: reply
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oh tennesee is one of those states.anyway,ameriloan and gfsil are not going to be licensed anywhere.
if i am not mistaken tendollar payday is mte as well as ameriloan.
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:48 am Subject:
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why are these unlicensed and illegal?
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jonnajamie
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:51 am Subject:
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One Click, Ameriloan, Ten Dollar are all MTE. I think Paycheck Today is too if I remember correctly . . . .
Isn't Loan Point USA a Geneva Roth company?
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:08 am Subject:
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yes it is so what does that mean? what does taht mean and what did they mean when they said oh tennessee is one of those states
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:14 am Subject:
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What paul meant when he said "Oh TN is one of those states" is that TN is one of the few state's that allows companies to be licensed in another state and still lend legally in TN, as long as they do not have a physical location in TN. Most state's require that the company be licensed in that state to lend.
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