Advanta Bank is not willing for debt settlement - what to do?

 


 
12-09-2009, 05:25 AM
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I received a letter from Avanta, "saying their auditors are engaged in their regularly scheduled audit of their financial statement." They want me to confirm what I owe.
They want me to send it back to their auditor's KPMF LLP attention Mike Visconto in PA. Has anyone else received this. I do not agree with the fee's be cause I had not choice when the raised my interest rate.
I am in the process of signing up with a debt settlement company. Any suggestion from anyone? Has anyone else received this letter?
There's nothing routine or regular going on at Advanta right now.

Responding to that letter would be insanely foolish. It would make your junk debt more salable, for one thing.

Don't get in bed with a debt settlement company. 90% are crooks and the other 10% might as well be for all the good they'll do you. The reputable ones are on a computer system that automatically advertises the balance you have built up with them to creditors and offers them a bite of it in return for dropping the debt. But that's a lousy way to negotiate. All your cards are face up.
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12-09-2009, 08:35 AM
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i was finally able to talk to somebody at advanta who helped me out. after getting nowhere with the collection agent other than closer to being sued, i demanded a contact at advanta whom i could speak to about my case. the collection agent really tried to dissuade me from speaking to anybody there, saying he could give me the name of somebody who *might call me back. in other words, don't count on it. after several tries i got the guy on the phone. turns out he's really cool and some sort of manager of the collection agencies. he listened to my case and told the agent to accept my offer to pay $500 (as opposed to $1000) by the end of the month. tiny victory in a long battle still to come. but so relieved i won't be getting sued, at least not yet.
Can you tell me who you talked with at Advanta? I have been talking to someone also who wants me to sign an agreement with them. I have not decided what to do yet. I really can't afford their terms. I am afraid that if I sign a new agreement with them, then I am admitting that I owe this debt and have thus just validated it for them so they can sue me.
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12-09-2009, 08:39 AM
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Phillips and Cohen are clueless. This week they threatened to recommend a lawsuit against my nearly dead company of 20 years. I explained if so, it would force me to do the same thing as Dennis Alter and file bankruptcy. "That's no use" the mutt said on the other end, "if you do we can go after your personal assets"..."and who's Dennis Alter"

I calmly replied, "That's the guy who hired you-The PRESIDENT of Advanta. You see he's a dead beat of $130m while I only owe a few thousand dollars. Everything I own was leveraged out the wazoo, but I hear his house is worth $80m so if what you are saying is true, then he has more to worry about than me.
Who arePhillips and Cohen?
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12-09-2009, 08:43 AM
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IMHO, there won't be any more than a tiny handful of lawsuits anytime soon on account of Advanta. No matter how much they threaten.
How can you be so sure of that?
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12-09-2009, 11:32 AM
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Has any one worked with Management Services out of PA to settle the ADVANTA account?

What can you tell me have they kept their word and has anyone had any problems if they have kept their payment plan up?
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12-09-2009, 11:50 AM
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I received a letter from Avanta, "saying their auditors are engaged in their regularly scheduled audit of their financial statement." They want me to confirm what I owe.
They want me to send it back to their auditor's KPMF LLP attention Mike Visconto in PA. Has anyone else received this. I do not agree with the fee's be cause I had not choice when the raised my interest rate.
I am in the process of signing up with a debt settlement company. Any suggestion from anyone? Has anyone else received this letter?

I received this letter too. Today is the day I received a call from Ronald Gleason with Management Services Incorporated out of Langhorne PA 19047. He sent me a settlement letter for a payment plan. I just need to know if the are Crooks or the Real thing.

Can anyone help?
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12-10-2009, 05:50 AM
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Beverly, Phillips and Cohen are nothing more than a collection company who pretend to come off as a law firm. They have beed "threatening" to recommend their "client" file suit in the State of Utah since July.

I know it will do them little good since my business was in Florida and they will have to go through some serious steps to sue me here. Which also means I get to tell a Judge and Jury my side of the story. Do you really think they will spend that kind of coin right now?

Folks-please don't believe that filing a suit means they automatically win. It would be nothing short of an up-hill battle and they do not have the resources, even if they do win, they have to sue you in your home State to attach a lien. Give me a break! As of present, THEY ARE BEING SUED by everyone they have ever worked with or employed. So that threat is and empty as Dennis Alter's skull cavity.

Advanta Corp filed BK to protect what little assets remain after Alter built his $80m mansion with our 35% interest rates. They would have BK'd Advanta Bank (the Credit Division) too but it is FDIC insured so it would not have been allowed.

I am certain right now FDIC officials are trying to find the right buyer to come in and take over Advanta Bank. When this happens I expect to get a more reasonable settlement offer or I will take the new owner to court-that is a promise.
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12-10-2009, 08:48 AM
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Beverly, Phillips and Cohen are nothing more than a collection company who pretend to come off as a law firm. They have beed "threatening" to recommend their "client" file suit in the State of Utah since July.

I know it will do them little good since my business was in Florida and they will have to go through some serious steps to sue me here. Which also means I get to tell a Judge and Jury my side of the story. Do you really think they will spend that kind of coin right now?

Folks-please don't believe that filing a suit means they automatically win. It would be nothing short of an up-hill battle and they do not have the resources, even if they do win, they have to sue you in your home State to attach a lien. Give me a break! As of present, THEY ARE BEING SUED by everyone they have ever worked with or employed. So that threat is and empty as Dennis Alter's skull cavity.

Advanta Corp filed BK to protect what little assets remain after Alter built his $80m mansion with our 35% interest rates. They would have BK'd Advanta Bank (the Credit Division) too but it is FDIC insured so it would not have been allowed.

I am certain right now FDIC officials are trying to find the right buyer to come in and take over Advanta Bank. When this happens I expect to get a more reasonable settlement offer or I will take the new owner to court-that is a promise.
Thank you for the information. Good luck with your case also.
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12-10-2009, 10:01 AM
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How can you be so sure of that?
Check for yourself. There are a lot of counties in major cities whose court docket system is online for anyone to peruse. Just put Advanta Bank in the "party" or "plaintiff" slot and do a search to see what's been in court and when it's been in court.

At least in my neck of the woods, Advanta's hockey stick curve in defaulted accounts produced an equal and opposite hockey stick curve in the number of lawsuits filed.
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12-10-2009, 10:10 AM
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Now is not the time to consider paying anything. Wait until after the FDIC takes them over.

No bank is going to buy this wreckage, they're going to just transfer the deposits and performing accounts to some healthy bank and the nonperforming are going to go to a JDB ... and if you play your cards right with a JDB you'll pay nothing.
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12-11-2009, 10:13 AM
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Hey Guest 5645, I am survivor.. Maybe you are reading my posts in error, not sure, but I am current on ALL my debts!!!
I am only interested in what is FAIR and what the law states, but I am not sure if you are directing your posts to Survivor, or if this is an error.
Case in point, the banks, including Advanta, did a lot of fraudulent things.. Especially Advanta.. This is no longer an issue regarding paying debts.
Atlanta raised their interest rates to usury level for no reason, and they are hiding behind the laws of Utah. If you did not miss a payment, and have never missed a payment on anything, there is no justification for an interest rate hike of 2% - 50% because OTHER people did not pay.
Advanta has no right to collect debt that is NOT true debt.
Guest 5645 is advanta rep his name is John and a pure AS Hole. He told me he reads and responds here.

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12-11-2009, 10:57 AM
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So Survivor
you owe money, but you do not want to pay because a rep is nasty to you ????
Wow new excuse.
We do not skip out on debts, we try to pay them.
I have seen some other of your posts, and it just seems that you do not want to pay anything that you owe.

How you doing John see your still an Advanta A--Hole rep.

PR Yes you know me.
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12-11-2009, 06:33 PM
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Now is not the time to consider paying anything. Wait until after the FDIC takes them over.

No bank is going to buy this wreckage, they're going to just transfer the deposits and performing accounts to some healthy bank and the nonperforming are going to go to a JDB ... and if you play your cards right with a JDB you'll pay nothing.
Sorry, what is a JDB?
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12-11-2009, 06:34 PM
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Sorry, what is a JDB?
Junk debt buyer.
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12-14-2009, 09:57 PM
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Can someone tell me how to get ahold of someone at Advanta who can help me settle, I keep calling and I keep getting people in India who say the same thing over and over about how they can't help me. I keep trying to let them know I'm on the verge of bankruptcy and need to do something.

Someone please give me a contact name and number from somebody who is actually at advanta. Thanks in advance.
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12-14-2009, 10:49 PM
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I have found the following address of Advanta.

Welsh and McKean Roads,
Spring House, PA 19477

Phone: 215-657-4000
Fax: 215-659-9479

See if it helps.
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