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Sub: #1 Daniel Paul Group LLC
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Has anyone ever had an experience with them? We are considering debt settlement, and using this group - their website is debt140.com. I'm new to this, and just have a bad feeling - but could just be general nervousness. Thanks for any help!


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Replied on 10-17-2008, 12:18 PM
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I can`t find any info on them with the BBB.

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Yes, I looked too and that worried me. I flat out asked them, and this is the reply:

4CLSA.COM IS WHO YOU ARE CONTRACTING WITH IS A MEMBER OF T.A.S.K. THE GOVERNMENT WATCHDOG OVER SETTLEMENT COMPANIES OUR RELATIONSHIP ENDS ONCE YOU ARE



CONTRACTED WITH THE LAWYER GROUP C.L.S.A.


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1st : They are not members of TASC according to TASC's web site. 2nd : TASC is not a government agency . It is a non-profit company and its goals are to promote good practice in the debt settlement industry, protect the interests of consumer debtors, and lobby on behalf of debt settlement companies on the federal and state level. If I were you I would be shopping with some other settlement companies preferably ones who are members of the BBB.

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Still smokin, You obviously have no clue what you are talking about. This forum doesn't allow foul language so you need to lay off the glass pipe and watch your language.

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wow , you sure told me. Lay off the glass pipe buddy

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lol

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I David W spoke with Steve and It is my desire to get out of this contract and get my 7500.00 back as well as my 349.00.If you have any questions fell free to contact me at Edited

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Daniel Paul is a law firm. Law firms are not members of TASC. TASC is a joke. Its a club. Attorney's are regulated by a higher authorty called the STATE BAR! Lawyers do it right so they dont loose that precious attorney license. Think about it TASC or a Lawyer with a lot to losse. Go with Daniel Paul. Very credible.

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Most Debt firms are not currently recognized by the BBB. So most can not join even if they wanted to. Look up CLSA or the internet on the bars website. IRA FRAZER is the lawyer in charge and is in Excellent standing with the bar. MICHIGAN LAW!!

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i'm about to use these guys the daniel paul law firm anymore feedback -email me email removed per forum rules ---mobile


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thanks for removing my email


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Your welcome

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fUNNY HA HA

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Some of the most damaging players in the debt settlement industry have been and are attorney's.
There is ample evidence of this on this board alone.

That being said, I happen to know a handful of really good attorney's working in this industry.

The point is; Do your homework and talk with several resources.

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Hey all, I figured that this would be some usefull information
I have worked collections for banks in the past and figured that I can provide some usefull information.

First of most debt settlement companies are scams! Settling your debt is an option that any consumer can do, not have to pay a 3rd party to do it. If someone is drowing in debt the best thing is to try to negotiate yourself. many banks are willing to settle accounts directly with you if your are past due.

Second debt settlement companies tell you half truths. Will they settle your debts, maybe, but not always. They tell you not to talk with your creditors, to keep you in the dark about what is happening and to only pay them. The funds that you pay them go to a savings account that they draw interest off of and they sit on until you have enough to start settling your debts. They don't tell you that it may be 2-5 years before they even contact your creditors with an offer. Accounts can charge off (become a bad debt) or be outsourced based on risk from around 4 months on. If it gets outsourced, it may even go to an attorney (they don't tell you that). If that is the case, you could wind up sued and settlement may not even be an option at that point. Lovely. They when you finally realize this you contact the debt settler to find out what went wrong only to find out that their contract entitles them to your money if you don't stay with them. Its a trap. Oh and non profit organization just means they can't sell the business for a profit, does not mean that they can't each have 6 figure salaries while they are there.

The best option is to:

Settle with the banks yourself ( they can break it up to payments too)

or if you don't want to mess with it, or if you have a bank that is a particular butt head, contact a local, legitimate attorney, to do it for you. Just bear in mind that you will need lump sums to do that or be able to maintain your min payments to hold the accounts at the same delinquincy so they don't charge off)

Or go with a legitimate credit counseler, especially if they are listed with the National foundation of credit counseling, because that would mean they have rules to follow. If you go to a credit counseler make sure 2 things. 1 that they will pay your creditors within a week or so after you make the first payment to them. If they say that it takes them 30 to 60 days, NO! They actually would pocket that amount for themselves. And that they are with the National Foundation for Credt Counseling.

I hope this helps,




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