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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 12:57 pm Subject: Geneva Roth attempting to debit my frozen account

I need to send a letter to these people but I can't find them. When I emailed them revoking their ACH priviledges they replied with "we cannot stop the withdrawal until the account is paid. Three attempts will be made each time. Three times they sent that email when I revoked them three times. Months later they are still trying to debit my frozen account. I have already paid them more than they are entitled to. I can't call them as I do not want to get involved in weaselspeak with some snippy low life. I need an address and I just can't find one anywhere. I also need it for the AG. They need to locate them. They are registered in Utah. Any Ideas? They operate under Loan Point USA. I posted this earlier but it seems to have disappeared when the site went down.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:15 pm Subject:

Geneva Roth has this address in the other thread.

Geneva Roth Ventures
P.O. Box 148
Shawnee Mission, KS 66201
800-351-8820 ext. 247
913-825-1200 (direct office number)

It looks like they are doing unauthorized withdrawals in your checking account. You should let your bank know about their illegal debits and stop from being charged any NSF fees. Speak to your state Attorney general because they might be well aware of this company. They will immediately put an investigation and get the real status of your account.

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:32 pm Subject:

Yeah it did disappear, frogpatch, because I wrote a response to it! I know what you are going through because United Cash Loans won't stop trying to debit my account either even though my account is closed.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:32 pm Subject: geneva roth

Thanks for that address. I will send a certified there and see if anyone signs. My account has been on deposit only for a couple months. They just keep trying anyway. I have their refusal to stop in writing which is a plus.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:37 pm Subject:

If you have their refusal in writing and you revoked their auth to debit,please tell me why you have not filed charges for fraud or theft yet!
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:52 pm Subject: geneva roth

Here is the email stream just for entertainments sake.

Quote:
Me:
One more time. You are not able to, or authorized to, withdraw from that
account. I will not pay any charges incurred by withdrawals against this
account. You have been informed of the situation multiple times but you
choose to ignore it.
Her:
This will be the third email that I have responded to regarding this situation. Again, there is no way for us to stop the Ach debits until the loan is paid in full.
Me:
I am sorry but I do not believe you! I am filing a complaint with the FTC and the Attorney Generals office. I am sure you don't care. Put Geneva Roth into Google and see what they are saying about the company you work for.
Her:
You will need to refer to the agreement that you signed to take the loan and it states everything that I have told you.

Reese Price
Loan Officer
Loan Point USA
1-800-351-8820 Ext: 314
1-800-351-8830 Fax

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:56 pm Subject:

Go get em frogpatch. I am sure he doesn't care either. But you know what, they will care when these states wisen up and shut these places down.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:02 pm Subject: Geneva Roth

Cajunbulldog. The reason I am trying to find them is so the AG knows where to look. The complaint form in Florida asks for the company's address. Also I would like to file against them in the state where they are.This was suggested by the attorney general in Florida in my complaint against my favorite Route 66. The Florida AG never followed up on my complaint so far as I know.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:18 pm Subject:

Frogpatch - Per the electronic funds transfer act - It is illegal to require a customer to pay by ach.

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ยง 913. Compulsory use of electronic fund transfers

No person may--
(1) condition the extension of credit to a consumer on such consumer's repayment by means of preauthorized electronic fund transfers; or
(2) require a consumer to establish an account for receipt of electronic fund transfers with a particular financial institution as a condition of employment or receipt of a government benefit.

[Codified to 15 U.S.C. 1693k]

[Source: Section 913 of title IX of the Act of May 29, 1968 (Pub. L. No. 90-321), as added by title XX of the Act of November 10, 1978 (Pub. L. No. 95-630; 92 Stat. 3737), effective May 10, 1980]

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:35 pm Subject:

Frog I was not referring to civil charges.I was referring to criminal charges at your local police station.
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:04 pm Subject: geneva roth

Thanks for the info Goudah. It will come in handy.
Cajunbulldog,with all due respect I don't see the police in Clearwater Fl. pursuing anyone outside their jurisdiction. They may issue a local warrant if they have a name.

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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:38 pm Subject:

Frog,you talk to local police and if they see evidence sufficient to prosecute,they turn over to US attorney who has Federal jurisdiction.
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:32 pm Subject: geneva roth

Oh I see how that works. Will the Attorney General turn it over to the US Attorney also? Or can I do that myself?
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