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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:06 am Subject: Need info on Debt Settlement Please !! |
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Hi, i have Cr cards debt $22,000 (6 cards), have hard time paying minimum and considering debt settlement. Does anyone have been in the Debt settlement program?? is it really works? I have found many of them online but not sure, afraid that they are scam companies. I have heard abt Debtxpert.com from the forum but not sure too since I checked in BBB.org and the rate is F. Does anyone has any suggestions/info what company that is reputable?? will the cr cards co. / collectors will harrast me while i enroll in the program?? how abt the interest and late fee? will they included in the settlement amt?? or how many years it will affect the credit report?? Thank's a lot !!!
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cutiebear112

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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:06 am Subject: |
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Hello Cutiebear - I just got your quick message you left me and I replied, also to answer a few more of your questions:
Some DS companies are good, some are bad, either way they all charge a fee for their services and I have found people are able to do this on their own without using a DS company. If you choose to use a DS company
you can check out this forum's ranking chart here:
http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/ranking-chart/
Even if you enroll in a DS company the CC's might keep calling you until your DS company takes care of this. Interest and late fee's will continue to occur on your account and the DS company will NOT be making any payments, this is different than consolidation where they make monthly payments. With DS you put money into an account and when you have enough then they try and settle the account for you.
Keep in mind that with DS or doing it yourself there is always a possibility of being sued. And the DS company can't do much for when this happens. Usually this will affect your credit until it's settled and then after that it will show up on your Credit report but you will be able to rebuild. If you can settle all your accounts within 2 years say, then you can start rebuilding. If you read my blog, you'll see my score just jumped 59 points because one of my accounts is now showing settled/paid. So each time one is taken care of this also helps.
There is also more information on What debt settlement is at this link:
http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/debt-settlement.html
Hope this helps!
Jen
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:43 pm Subject: |
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Hi Cutiebear, It may also be helpful to check out the International Association of Professional Debt Arbitrators--www.iapda.org when deciding on a company. Also, take note of all the companies' response times and their levels of customer service and professionalism, which is usually a great indicator of a reputable company. They should also answer all of your above questions at length. Do not let them rush you through it. The fee percentage is usually 15% to 25% of the total amount of debt you bring into the program so try to go with a company whose fees are 15%. Be careful of a company who doesn't give you a clear and precise explanation of their fees. There is always the possibility of being sued but do realize that this is very costly and time consuming for the creditors—a settlement is a much better offer and less work. If a law suit is threatened, the debt settlement company should make that particular account a priority and get it settled as soon as possible.
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:47 am Subject: |
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FYI, Debtxpert.com has an F rating with the BBB but so do all other companies in Southern California. I have looked into this extensively as I too questioned the F rating. James, aka debtxpert advised that the BBB owner of the southland is also part owner of a debt management company therefore, all debt settlement companies by default get a F rating. If you notice, there are no complaints against debtxpert, sifxpert or the debt help center yet, they are given an F rating. This doesnt seem very fair but if you look up any debt consolidation company in the southland, they all have A or triple A ratings with numerous complaints.
Here is a review someone posted about debtxpert just recently:
This board was where I started my research into debt options (I made a few guest posts as Cruithne), so I thought that now that I am debt-free I would come back and return the favor of sharing my experiences. If this is as much a review as a story, that is because I remember how starved for information I was when I was trying to research the different settlement companies. If you have any questions that my rather verbose post doesn't cover, I'll be happy to answer here or in PM.
Short Version:
Cards settled: BofA (20%), the dreaded Citibank (50%), and State Farm Bank aka Chase (55%), all of which were current before I started
Time it took: ~6 months (all pre-chargeoff)
Total debt at start of program: ~35.3k
Total debt right before charge off (because of yucky fees): ~38.5k
Total settlement amounts: ~12.2k (about 30%)
Total amount saved including fees paid: ~20-23k (depending on whether you count the interest and fees)
Company I used: debtxpert.com aka "sifxpert"
Fee structure: 20% of what you are saved for each settlement, with a $500 retainer fee at the start
My Rating: 4.75 out of 5 stars
Based on my experiences, I can recommend without reservations the settlement company I used. If I had to do it all over again and if he were no longer in business, I wouldn't even try settlement. Tooo many things that can go wrong. The fee structure of other companies is scary in comparison, and no one has impressed me with their skill and character as much as James Lombardo of debtxpert.com has.
Long Version
A year ago (fall 2006), I was a day late paying my BofA bill because of...well, I don't remember. Probably just busy or trying to juggle the in and out-flow of money down to the day like we often have to. Or maybe I was just too close to my limit. They've given me a hard time about that too. In any case, they took my apr up to the ungodly 30%+, making it impossible for me to pay my minimum balances. And nothing I could do would talk them down.
So I found myself here, and I learned about settlement. I had never been more than a day late in any payment, so as I learned more of the "dark side" of settlement (that I would have to stop paying bills, or no one would settle), I was pretty worried. I was originally talking to the company that was popular here at the time (I don't know if they still are), but their payment plan really worried me. Because of the up-front fees and because of my low income, it would take years to settle my debts through their setup.
At first I thought that was the only option, so I was this close to signing up, but then through my various googlings to find other opinions about them, I learned about the company now known as debtxpert.com (aka sifxpert aka James).
I was intrigued by the idea of working with someone who participated in the community he served (a different one, not this one), so after talking with James on the phone and sending countless emails (I'd gotten pretty jaded and suspicious of the whole debt correction industry by this time), my husband and I decided to enter his program. I was won over by how smart the guy was, and how very not-pushy he was. I knew that settlement was possible, but only if the person doing the negotiation was very clever and knowledgeable. I felt he was.
We stopped paying our bills in...March 2007 I think it was? And by September we were debt-free.
I can't say it was the easiest thing I've done. While he did what he could to stop phone calls, it wasn't foolproof. It helped that I had a cell phone as my main phone that could be set to only accept #s in my address book. And of course nothing can help the guilt if you are someone who has always paid your bills.
But it worked. All three of our cards were settled before charge-off. And I can now gladly give my wholehearted recommendation that James and his team at debtxpert.com can do the job.
The Good:
1) The fee structure ($500 retainer, then 20% of what he saves you from each settlement) is *sane*. It's what everyone should be doing. It meant we actually had the money to settle, since we hadn't paid most of our savings into fees to the settlement company.
2) He believes in settling before charge-off. Avoiding charge-off was very important to us, so we needed to know that the negotiator would fight for that.
3) He is not only smart and good at what he does, but he respects and cares about his clients. Yes, it is a business (and possibly a very lucrative one, given how many of these companies are out there), but I honestly think the guy gets a high from helping people.
The Bad:
Some things could have been improved on. In a perfect world the calls would have stopped completely. I don't know if it is possible or not these days.
And as others have mentioned, he can be hard to get ahold of. It is better than it was earlier this year and in the last 2-3 months he's always replied to emails within 24 hours. Still, when you are doing something like settlement you really want to be able to reach your negotiator quickly. With so many fraudulent and irresponsible companies out there, not being able to reach them by phone relatively quickly can make you start to imagine all sorts of terriying things.
Fortunately this doesn't appear to have hurt anyone yet besides generating some worry. I've read folks being frustrated that it took them a little too long to reach him, but I've never read anyone complain about settlement results. If he'd messed up or screwed someone over with a bad negotiation, we'd hear about it here or on one of the other debt settlement online communities.
So despite the above negatives, if I had to do it all over again, I'd still sign on with him.
P.S. Being debt-free and paying everthing with cash...is awesome. OMG. I randomly break out into a s#$%-eating grin at the oddest moments.
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:33 am Subject: |
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Hi Cutiebear -
My wife and I were almostin the exact same position as you in 2005. In fact we had more debt, about $35K! I convinced my wife we needed to go the debt settlement route and we are so happy we did. So happy in fact, that I decided I needed to start a website to tell the world.
We used a settlement company (Hoffman, Brinker & Roberts) that also ONLY works on a contingentcy basis (when they get a settlement) and charges a percentage of the money saved, so they have an incentive to get you the best settlement.
Good Luck to you in shedding your debt!
Brad
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:54 pm Subject: |
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Brad and guest - thank you for your info, yes some debt settlement companies are great to work with but if you can deal with the calls this can be accomplished on your own and save the fee's. I settled my BoA card for 20% - original balance 17K with fee's 20,500K and settled for $4100. But the goal for all of us is to be debt free, so whatever is going to work best and get you out of debt is the way to go.
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jb2007

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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:14 pm Subject: Info on Debt Settlement |
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I decided to do DS on my own after reading this board,the internet and researching companies. I did not feel comfortable with all the mixed reviews out there. I will say that I really wanted to use debtxpert and emailed him that I was interested. He told me he would call but never did. That is fine because it gave me time to realize-I can do this! I hear awesome reviews about him-I do hear he is hard to reach. That is a no-no with me especially with something like this. I need communication. If you decide to use him and can reach him-great. From what I have read too-his fees are a lot better than most.
Best of luck!
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:14 am Subject: where can you find the info? |
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Is there anywhere you can find the info and forms you need to do this yourself for free? Also has anyone ever heard of zipdebt.com?
Thanks
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:17 pm Subject: Zipdebt.com |
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I purchased the zipdebt package and returned it because there was nothing in it that I hadn't read or seen on this site.
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