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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:49 am Subject: One Click Cash |
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Does anyone know anything about this company? Yesterday I emailed them wanting to know why I could not view my loan documents. They called today and told me it was due to mu loan being in default as of Monday (I put an ACH block on my account) They continue to tell me that I owe $424 on this loan that I took out on 5/21. I told them they must be mistaken I took this loan out a couple of months ago. Well I took a look at my bank records and I took the loan out on 4/24/07 for 250.00 since then I have made 3 payments of $75. What the heck? I asked them to please email me my loan documents and they told me they couldn't for my protection (They should have said for their protection) They said that they would send me a copy of their terms though. I need to know how to deal with this company.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:54 am Subject: |
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You can't get your loan documents, because they don't exsist. One Click Cash is a dba of MTE Financial, and if you search for them, you'll find that they are oh so much fun to deal with (sarcasm). The 3 payments that you have made are what they call "rollovers", since they automatically renew the loan until you hit the 5th payment, and then they start paying it down. However, please tell me what state you are in, and we can find the state laws for you so that you do arm yourself in your battle with this company.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:01 pm Subject: |
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I'm in Minnesota
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:05 pm Subject: |
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What are the obligations a licensed lender should follow in MN?
| Quote: | Maximum amount that may be lent in a deferred presentment transaction/cash advance is $350. Loan term shall not exceed 30 days period.
Licensed small loan lenders may charge fees; MN suggests certain slabs for fees based on the loan amount:
$5.50 up to $50 of the loan amount
10% + $5 (administrative fees) for $51 - $100 of the loan amount
7% + minimum of $10 + $5 (administrative fees) for $101 - $250 of the loan amount
6% + minimum of $17.50 + $5 (administrative fees) for $251 + $350 of the loan amount
Rollovers or renewals are not allowed, a loan must not be repaid by the proceeds of another similar loan from the same lender or any other licensed lender. Loan made to a borrower may not be divided or split and no single borrower shall have more than one outstanding loan or the aggregated principal over $350 out of collection fees higher than what is permitted.
What if the check returns?
Lenders can charge $30 fees, civil penalties can be added; the code does not say anything like criminal prosecutions.
Where to complaint if I find someone violating the rules?
All queries and complaints should be forwarded to the Minnesota Department of Commerce. |
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:08 pm Subject: |
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So, I would send One Click Cash a letter, because they are in violation of the MN law, by rolling over the loan, as this is not allowed. Also, the legal amount of interest you can calcuate how much you still legally owe them. You can search for a template for a letter of what to send them, I'm not very good with that, but some others on the board, are. State these laws in your letter, and tell them that is what you will be paying them. DO NOT give out your new banking information, debit or credit card information. Pay by money order if possible. DO NOT give them anymore access to your financial information.
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debtfreein08

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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:11 pm Subject: |
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So anotherwards they have to follow MN laws right meaning that they are not allowed to roll over this loan and they have done so 3 times already and I already have paid $225. I'm not sure that I am understanding this right
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:16 pm Subject: |
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Right, they have to follow MN laws, as you took the loan in MN. And, yes, you are correct that they are not allowed to rollover the loan, and the $225 you have paid, is to be applied to the principle, as they can't roll over the loan, and say that the fees you have paid is only applied to the interest. So, if you took the loan out for $250, legally, you only owe them $25 + 32.50 in interest, and $30 for the return check fee. So, you only still owe them: $87.50, legally. Does that make sense?
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:20 pm Subject: |
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Yes it does to me- now is it going to make scence to them by the sounds of your sarcastic statement it's not going to be that easy. I appreciate your help for explaining this to me.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:25 pm Subject: |
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Oh, you are welcome. I'm not trying to scare you with dealing with them. I've had my share of crap from PDL's, and I'm just trying to help people know their rights. But, as long as you are armed with the knowledge, you are an informaed consumer, and you can do battle. Did you send a cease and desist letter? Also, I would say in your letter that if they refuse to acknowledge what you still legally owe them under the MN laws, that you will have no problem filing disputes with the BBB, the state attorney general of MN, as well as the state of Oklahoma's AG (where they are located). This usually scares them, as the state of Oklahoma ordered them to stop lending in OK, so legally they can't lend to anyone anywhere.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:30 pm Subject: |
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Leah, Goudah, does all of this sound right? I hope you are proud, you both helped me to be so knowledgeable to help others!
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 12:07 am Subject: CashClickOne |
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On 5/29/07 a credit of $300.00 was deposited into my bank account from CashClickOne and to this day I have never seen any loan documentation describing the terms of the loan. Here is a report of all of the money this "Company" has taken out of my bank account by way of ACH debits...
6/15/07 $90.00
6/29/07 $90.00
7/13/07 $90.00
7/31/07 $90.00
8/15/07 $90.00
8/15/07 $50.00
8/31/07 $75.00
8/31/07 $50.00
9/14/07 $50.00
9/14/07 $60.00 GRAND TOTAL TO DATE IS $735.00!!!!
I don't have any way to contact CashClickOne and the bank is of no help. Can someone help me out here? I live in California and I know that this is wayyyyyyyy to much repayment on a $300.00 loan....HELP PLEASE
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:23 am Subject: |
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In MN they do not have a long arm statute. So in MN it is legal for companies to loan in MN as long as they are licensed in another state. They would need to follow the laws of that state.
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Emails to and from the MN Banking Dept:
From:
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 3:44 PM
To: Financial.Commerce(at)state.mn.us
Subject: Payday loan questions
Hello,
I have a question about internet payday loans. Do these need to be licensed in MN to be legal? Also, how do I calculate the legal amount of interest they can charge me according to MN laws? I see the laws state:
Maximum Finance Rate and Fees: $5.50: $0-$50; 10%+$5: $51-$100; 7% (min. $10) + $5: $101-$250; 6% (min. $17.50) + $5: $251-$350 (After default: 2.75% per month)
Finance Charge for 14-day $100 loan: $15
apr for 14-day $100 loan: 390%
So for a $300 loan how would I calculate the interest? And since no rollovers are allowed and the companies I have loans with have rolled them over countless times, would I be correct in saying that they are breaking the law? I've been told by several of them that they don't have to follow MN laws, even though they solicited me, because they are licensed in the state that they are located in. Is that correct?
I really appreciate any help or direction you could give me!
Thanks!
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From: Terry Meyer [mailto:Terry.Meyer@state.mn.us]
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 6:40 AM
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Subject: FW: Payday loan questions
First we don’t license lenders that are domiciled in other states. Minnesota law does not have a long arm statute and allows residents to seek loans wherever they want. Solicitations via the internet or ads do not place the lender in Minnesota, only a physical location would [the exception being residential mortgage lenders].
The way to calculate the APR for a 14 day loan is either using a T-I calculator. A fast check using the example for a $100 14 day loan is;
$15 finance charge divided by the $100 loan [proceeds of the loan, or amount financed] = .15, or 15%
.15 divided by the number of days in the loan, or 14, gives you the daily rate of .0004109589
Multiply that number by 365 [days in the year] = 3.91071428415, or 391.07% APR
Does that help – and in Minnesota rollovers or refinancing is not permitted. Name the MN lender and file a complaint.
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Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 8:45 AM
To: Terry Meyer
Subject: FW: Payday loan questions
Terry,
So to make sure I understand this, a payday loan company located in another state doesn't have to be licensed to lend to MN consumers. But do they have to follow MN laws about rollovers and interest? Or can they follow the laws of the state in which they are located in?
Thanks for you help!
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From: Terry Meyer [mailto:Terry.Meyer@state.mn.us]
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 6:58 AM
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Subject: RE: FW: Payday loan questions
It is similar to credit cards – I would bet, assuming you are a MN resident, that none of your credit cards are from banks located in MN. The Supreme Court ruled in both 1978 that rates, and 1996 that fees could be imported for credit cards issued by out of state lenders to other states borrowers. Its agency law. The use of the laws of the state in which the lender is licensed is required.
Please explain your interest and the firm you represent.
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Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 9:04 AM
To: Terry Meyer
Subject: RE: FW: Payday loan questions
Terry,
I don't represent any firm. I was just trying to get some more information about the laws governing these kind of loans. The reason I was curious about the specific point of if state law governs out of state pdl's is because where I live, Oregon, they do have a law saying that out of state pdl's much be licensed in OR and follow the laws of OR. I was hoping the same thing applied to MN, because in that case all his pdl's were grossly overcharging him.
Thanks!
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From: Terry Meyer [mailto:Terry.Meyer@state.mn.us]
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 7:30 AM
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Subject: RE: RE: FW: Payday loan questions
Good luck – we recently received a complaint on a Payday loan from Malta. Since MN doesn’t have a law like OR each state would have to be contacted for their payday loan law to determine if a violation occurred. |
BUT - This company isn't licensed anywhere, making it a moot point. Please do a search here about One Click Cash. NE is currently trying to kick them out, and are taking complaints from people in any state that have had a loan with this company.
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:24 am Subject: |
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Debtfreein08 - Yes! I'm very proud! You are doing an awesome job!
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:09 am Subject: my loan |
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so from what i have been reading it looks like i am going to have problems with also? or am i wrong?
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:31 pm Subject: |
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Problems with???
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:13 pm Subject: Cash Click One |
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Cash Click One - customer service
Phone Number 1-800-230-3266
Fax Number 1-800-803-9136
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