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Sub: #1 Writing a proper dv/dispute letter
Replied on 10-17-2011, 01:18 PM
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There are too many bad DV letters floating on the web, including the one in the DIY portion of this site.

This is how you write a proper DV letter.

1. First off...Read and understand the FDCPA.

Know what you can and cannot ask for.
You cannot ask for....
...Proof that SOL has not expired...that is your job to prove.
...Proof they they are licensed to collect in your state
...Their license numbers and registered agent information
...Proof or copy of contract between the creditor and the collection agency, that they are authorized to collect
...you are not party to that contract or agreement and you are not entitled to it.
...A complete payment history since day one.

2. Write you letter IN PLAIN ENGLISH. Do not copy letters off the internet or throw around legal jargon you do not understand. The CA's know the laws....you do not need to quote them.

3. Are you disputing the debt? Or just asking for validation of the debt. This is what the FDCPA states...
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(4) a statement that if the consumer notifies the debt collector in writing within the thirty-day period that the debt, or any portion thereof, is disputed, the debt collector will obtain verification of the debt or a copy of a judgment against the consumer and a copy of such verification or judgment will be mailed to the consumer by the debt collector; and(5) a statement that, upon the consumer’s written request within the thirty-day period, the debt collector will provide the consumer with the name and address of the original creditor, if different from the current creditor. (b) If the consumer notifies the debt collector in writing within the thirty-day period described in subsection (a) that the debt, or any portion thereof, is disputed, or that the consumer requests the name and address of the original creditor, the debt collector shall cease collection of the debt, or any disputed portion thereof, until the debt collector obtains verification of the debt or any copy of a judgment, or the name and address of the original creditor, and a copy of such verification or judgment, or name and address of the original creditor, is mailed to the consumer by the debt collector. Collection activities and communications that do not otherwise violate this title may continue during the 30-day period referred to in subsection (a) unless the consumer has notified the debt collector in writing that the debt, or any portion of the debt, is disputed or that the consumer requests the name and address of the original creditor.
Dispute Letter

CA Name
CA Address
City State and Zip

RE: Client Name and Account number

Certified Mailing Number ______________________

Dear Collector
I am disputing the validity of this debt.
(Then in simple english, explain WHY you are disputing the debt. i.e. debt included in bankruptcy, PDL illegal, I am not the correct person, you already paid it or a portion of it, debt passed SOL etc) Enclosed is (any documentation showing you paid, bk numbers)

Since I am disputing this debt, you should not report it to the credit reporting agencies. If you have already reported it, please contact the credit reporting agencies and have this marked as disputed. Reporting information that you know to be inaccurate is a violation of the Fair Credit Reporting Act.

Sincerely

Your name and signature



CC..Original Creditor

Debt Validation Letter

Your Name
Address
City, State Zip


Debt Collector’s Name
Address
City, State Zip

Certified Mailing Number ______________________

RE: Client Name and Account number

Dear Debt Collector:
This letter is sent in response to (phone call/letter) received by you on (date). Under the Fair Debt Collections Practices Act (FDCPA), I have the right to request validation of the debt you say I owe you. I am requesting proof that I am indeed the party you are asking to pay this debt, and there is some contractual obligation which is binding on me to pay this debt. Please provide me with a copy of the (card holder agreement, prom note, something with my signature on it)

Sincerely



Your Name and signature

Again, there is no reason to quote laws...the collection agencies KNOW the laws and do not need to be reminded.


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Sub: #2
Replied on 10-29-2011, 09:30 AM
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Excellent post.
As a collector who had to deal with these letters, just stay polite and to the point. People who send those 15 page letters with 300 questions are just asking for negative attention.
I feel like I have to express that these letters will not delay a lawfirm from suing you, they have already made up their minds. If you are not going to be sued, the letter doesnt matter anyways. If you are going to be sued, it will speed things up.
So, dont use these letters unless you really honestly feel that there is a validation issue. Make sure to do out the math if you think the amount is wrong. If you have 25% interest and havent paid for 2 years, then you have to multiply the amount by 1.25 twice, which is 1.5625 times the original amount. This means if you started at $1000, the actual amount you now owe would be $1562.50.
Why does a validation letter speed up the legal process? Because the lawyers and the CA dont have the documents until either one of two things happens. Either they are authorized to file suit, or you request the docs.
They file complaints in huge batches, and whatever accounts they have documents for will be included in that batch of complaints for the court.
So, as you can see, it doesnt delay any legal action in any way. Out of my last 3000-4000 files, only one person ever proved the amount was incorrect, it was an old lady who had paid a CA and the collector forgot to include a code for the finance department to indicate it was a settlement in full. They just took the amount off the entire balance and kept the file open. When it got to me, she sent me the offer letter, and I could see that the current balance was the same amount less than what the original balance was. Case closed.
So, also keep in mind that the likelihood of you getting some break is almost non-existant. UNLESS YOU REALLY DONT OWE THE MONEY. if you do owe it, its pointless. This is not the way to go about fixing problems.
If you know the amount is right, just dont even attempt to use these letters, it is really bad news for you. There are many ways to go about sticking it to collection agencies and their lawyers, but these letters are not one of them.
If you were planning on using these letters to buy time, this is not the way to go about doing it. The best way to buy time is to get into negotiations. The lawyers are paid by commission, so if they think they may not have to go to court, they will be happy to deal with you. The collectors will also be drooling at the mouth to get that money, so they will deal with a good deal of BS before they will let the files get out of their hands.
If you are trying to delay them, Whatever you do, dont have them submit a request to settle below guidelines, because if you dont pay after they have done that, you not only will not be able to settle under guidelines in the future, and you are flagging yourself to be sued. Just keep them thinking you will pay whatever their first offer was.
One more time for good measure, dont try and use these letters to delay a lawsuit, it does not work that way! Only use them when you really think you need to verify information, or if you really dont owe the money!

Sub: #3
Replied on 10-31-2011, 10:17 AM
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Well, not exactly.

A third-party collector filing suit in response to a request for validation of debt is a direct violation of the FDCPA.




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