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Sub: #81 find
Replied on 11-05-2009, 10:29 PM
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hi well im very new at this so ill get right to the point . i have a bell south in collection and ive been trying to get a hold them i saw it was on my credit report last year in 08 i looked just a few days ago its not there. so i do i find them if i keep getting the run around with them they wont give me a billing address or phone numbers when i called them last. they even said they never had me as a wireless coustomer. how do i get a hold of the right person and pay them im not on computer much but please email me at xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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Replied on 11-05-2009, 10:39 PM
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Maria, how old is the original account here? And what state do you live in?

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Replied on 11-17-2009, 02:39 PM
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A lot of the suggestions on here are pretty good, but know your rights by using the resources suggested - especially the FTC and your state's Attorney General's office.

Consider the following:

* To get the calls to stop, send the creditor or collector a letter - there are some included in the various posted comments - demanding that they cease and desist from attempting to contact you via telephone (at work or home) or via your mobile phone, or by email.

* ALWAYS send letters to a creditor or collection agency via certified mail, return receipt requested.

* NEVER admit you owe ANYTHING. If you make a settlement, don't admit you owe anything. Simply state that nothing stated in the agreement should be deemed an admission and that the parties agree to the terms stated in the agreement due to the uncertainty of litigation.

* ALWAYS keep ALL records of ALL communications. Write notes when you talk on the phone and put the time and date of the conversation at the top.

* ALWAYS tell the collector - just like they tell you - that you may be recording the conversation and that if they continue to talk it will be regarded as an agreement that the conversation may be recorded by you - even if you are not doing it. It can help to keep them from violating the law.

* Make sure if you are recording a conversation, that the recording includes your statement to them that you are or may be recording it. If they don't want to talk to you if the conversation is being recorded, just hang up on them. There is no reason if they are obeying the law that they should care whether the call is recorded.

* Don't hesitate to just hang up on them at any time for any reason or no reason at all. There's no law that says you have to talk to a creditor. There's no law that says you can't hang up on a creditor.

* If a creditor comes to your door to collect, tell them to immediately leave. If you know it's a creditor, bring you video camara when you answer the door. If they don't leave, call the police. Don't make any threats. Simply tell them they may not enter your property and that they are trespassing. Have your phone in hand and dial 911 with them standing at the door. Tell the operator there is an intruder on your property and to please send a police officer immediately. For a persistent collector that invades your privacy by returning after being informed they can not be on your property (which includes things such as a rental house or apartment, not just a home you "own"), go to your local police station and swear out a restraining order against the collector.

* There's no "debtor's prison" in America! You can not go to jail for simply not paying a bill. People don't to jail in America for not paying a debt to a regular business creditor (though you can for crimes, such as fraud, or for not paying some types of government fines, such as traffic tickets).

* ALWAYS demand a settlement offer in writing. Pay NOTHING until you receive it in writing and signed by a representative of the creditor. Make sure the document actually reflects what YOU understand the agreement to be and, if it doesn't, reject it.

* Make sure any agreement includes a statement that successful compliance with the agreement results in full and final satisfaction of the debt.

* If a creditor will not give you a settlement agreement in writing, don't trust them and don't pay them anything. They may promise you on the phone that a partial payment will satisfy the entire debt, but after your check clears, they just may call you again for the "outstanding balance". If you have no proof of a settlement, there isn't much you can do about it - in or out of court.

* If you ever get sued and don't have a lawyer, make sure you do "discovery". Send them, in writing, through their lawyer, a request for at least the following items: (1) any and all documents evidencing any debt owed by you to them, including, but not limited to, the original contract containing your signature and any other documents signed by you; (2) any and all documents regarding the subject matter of the suit; (3) any and all documents they intend to introduce as exhibits at trial; (4) the names of any and all witnesses they intend to call at trial, including, but not limited to, any expert witness; (5) a full accounting of the amount allegedly owed, including all debits, credits, and fees, including date incurred. There are many other things you may request. Don't hesitate to request anything you can think of. If they have a reason to not send it to you, they should tell you. If they don't send it to you, ask the court for an order directing them to comply with your discovery request.

The statements contained herein are intended as general information only. Nothing contained herein should be construed as legal advice or as the establishment of an attorney-client relationship.


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Replied on 11-17-2009, 04:49 PM
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That's excellent advice. Thanks for posting it.

Mind if I ask what state you practice in?

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Replied on 12-12-2009, 06:44 AM
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This website has been a great help. I'm trying to get my debt eliminated through one of these companies but they charge so much and there are no gaurentees. So I was looking for information that will help me deal with my creditor myself. If anyone has eliminated thier debt themselves I would love some help as how to getting started. I do have one question though. Should I let my debt go to collections and try to negotiate with them to pay a fraction of what was owed?

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Replied on 12-12-2009, 11:39 AM
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actually,if a company is in bankruptcy.they will make a stronger effort to collect outstanding debts.that does include suing if needed.
This would explain why Advanta is playing the hardball that they are.

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Sub: #87 Telling them they have Wrong Number doesn't work
Replied on 12-28-2009, 08:51 PM
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In my case its a wrong number that credit minion after minion keeps on calling, for a year now. As I'm unemployed I can't afford to change my number in case a potential employer calls.

Here's my solution:

Call them back, they will usually not identify themselves with a full name...so here's how you get at their managment. Be calm, be business like.

Me "hello this is agent smith (Your name goes here) with the United States Federal Trade Comission, to whom am I speaking"

Them: Ummm Huuhh Ummm What?

Me: I'd like to know why you keep calling my Number here at the office, and disrupting my phone mail, with a call about somone who is clearly...not me.I'll need to speak with someone in charge...please.

Them : ummm okay....a long long silence, yes this is Bill speaking.

Me: Bill I'd like to investigate a situation where I keep getting calls for a "whomever", who are you trying to collect for? Who is your client?

Them: I couldn't say.

Me: Bill you've called a private number, I have Identified myself as not this person, you are required to give me your name, and the source of who has given You my phone number.

Them: Capital One is our client.

*They will give you this, long before they give you their full name, such loyalty to the client tsk tsk.

Me: Thank You Bill, I trust you won't be calling my number xxx-4567 again. Can I get address to send you my written cease, and desist?

At this point I file a 'do not call complaint' with the FCC, not the FTC. I send them a fax or email or snail mail with my FCC complaint *That is my notification in writing*, and of course I include the FCC in the email.

I list Capital One and their agents as the offenders, include all addresses if you have them, multiple agencies if you have them.

But I'm not finished there. The we navigate to the Capital ONE site, under contacts they never have one labeled complaints, but they do have one for reporting fraud. Send the
following email to the report fraud link:

Dear Sirs, My name is "yourname" I have received phone calls from the following phone number xxx-4567, and they seem to be asking for account information. What's odd is I don't have an account with you, and never had one.

So Capital one investigates themselves, the right hand doesn't know what the collection agency is doing. In the end they figure out for themselves, they have the wrong phone number and it gets corrected. Or you can send cease and desists forever, and it will never stop as it passes from collection agency to agency.

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Sub: #88 ach debits from pay day loan companies
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Will a cease and desist letter stop ACH's from payday loan companies from coming out of my checking account


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No...it wont. Also since a payday loan company is a first party, they do not have to comply with a cease and desist.

You might wanna read the payday loan forum for information on how to stop your ACH.

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Sub: #90 David Kenndy
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Nelly, I work GE Aircraft Engines in Dayton Ohio and my name and business office is not David Kennedy, My name is Mike McPherson, West asset management keeps calling my ext 7318 and leaving message after message for David Kennedy, I have tried calling the # back but you never get to talking to anyone, how do I get West Asset Management to stop calling this # looking for David Kennedy, here is email address to verify email deleted...pm direct line deleted...pm


mike we are not this bottomfeeder(thank god).there is an address in this thread.mail them a complete cease and desist letter.send it certified mail return receipt.also please do not put sensitive info on a public site.thank you...paulmergel


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Sub: #91 say we owe $298.67
Replied on 01-26-2010, 08:39 AM
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they say this is owed from an amount left on an account of $47 back in 2007 and they have be trying to find us that long. we have been at same address for 9 yrs. they say it went from $47 to $298.67 because of late charges a penalties. we did not know of oweing anything until lette showed up and i called to inquire

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please clarify: After the unpaid balance of debt to a creditor is turned over to a collection agency, can the person still make a payoff agreement with the original creditor?

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Sub: #93
Replied on 01-28-2010, 10:10 PM
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Here's a game to play with collectors....

Keep a log of how long you can keep them on the phone with the minimum amount of words on your part.....

Commit to yourself that you will improve every week.

A good way to do this is to repeatedly say, "hmmm tell me more" and then immediately set the phone down for 2 minutes. come back in 2 minutes and see if they are still there. then try 3 minutes. then say "hmmm, tell me more."

Good luck!

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Sub: #94 daily phone calls by loan company
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I would like the phonecalls to cease from the loan company where I have 2 loans, 1 is up to date and the other is only 1 month behind. I take my payments to the office each and every time I have the money. I keep in contact with them and they STILL insist on calling me at WORK where I have ask them NOT to, and call me on my cell AND at home-daily AND sometime 4 and 5 times daily. How can I get the calls to STOP AT WORK AND at home and on my cellphone.?? It's not like I don't keep in touch with them.




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Replied on 02-02-2010, 05:21 PM
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First party lenders are not bound by the FDCPA unless your state law overrides it.

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Sub: #96 Cease and Desist Letter for BCR
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I just sent you a message for an example of a Cease and Desist letter - and then found one deeper in this website. THANK YOU!

Searching the web for just a "Cease and Desist Letter" and similar words brings up nothing useful. Try to get your cease and desist letter listed with your services or so that it will come up with responses to those words on the Internet. I have been diligently searching for 4 hrs. now.




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