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Submitted by on Fri, 06/13/2008 - 16:50
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Anyone has heard of Rancho Credit Management in Encinitas, CA?
I have received a letter that I owe quite large amount to them, with original creditor indicated.
I straight to Better Business Bureau site, but could not locate them. They even do not have website, etc.
First I need a verification of this debt.
Then, I need to know if this company is credible, I mean a good one to deal with.


If you are unsure about this company, send them a debt validation letter to make sure they are the ones who are supposed to collect on it.

Did they buy the debt, or are they just collecting on the debt? If they are just collecting on the debt, you can call the original creditor and see if you can work something out with them instead.

Since this is the weekend, it may be Monday before someone calls you back. If you have registered, just keep trying...Good luck, let us know what happens..karen :D


Submitted by Bossy4455 on Sat, 06/14/2008 - 09:26

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Hi questionable,

here is the contact number of Rancho Credit Management, 760-944-9676. Hope it works.

Though I don't have a first-hand experience with this CA, but I feel there is no reason to feel that they will be exceptionally easy to deal with.

Do you remember having this account with the creditor mentioned in their letter? How old is the debt? You may also wish to look into the Sol of your state.


Submitted by shelly on Sun, 06/15/2008 - 21:18

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Dear Questionable,

I agree with Bossy very much and ask you to verify the debt with the concerned CA by sending them a debt validation letter. If they do reply then you will know the creditor for whom they are collecting. Now, contact the creditor for settling the debt.

Creditors might be willing to settle the debt with you without involving the collection agency because some CAs charge a commission of 50% of the collected amount. So, anything below is negotiable by the creditor.

Now, if the collector fails to validate the debt then you can also sue them up to $1000.

Regards,

Phoenix


Submitted by phoenix on Sun, 06/15/2008 - 23:02

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This company just called one of my family members ( they said they got the phone # on the phone book, said that there were 5 people that has the same last name, and called all of them if i leave there & they're collecting a debt) which i don't even know this company. my question is that legal that they looked up on the phone book & just ask any that has the same last name?

thanks


Submitted by on Fri, 08/01/2008 - 17:08

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concern---it is perfectly legal for them to look up relatives in a phone book. HOWEVER, it is NOT legal for them to tell that person "we're looking for John M. Smith, we are trying to collect a debt of his." It is 100% illegal for them to disclose anything about the matter to a third party.

Also, the law only allows them to contact a third party because they are trying to locate you. If they have called you at all or sent you any letters, then they have already located you, which would make ANY call to someone else about this matter illegal.


Submitted by on Mon, 08/04/2008 - 11:41

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Rancho Credit Management, also known as Card Services, The Trading Post, Fidelity Settlement Group, or Golden Arch Cas*no is a real company. It's involved in debt collections, interstate tobacco sales, online gambling, and, I believe, debt consolidation.
The company is owned primarily, 95%, by Richard Burns. 90+% of the debt owned by the company is out-of-statute, four years or older; you should always ask what the write off date of the debt is, especially with them. Some of their collectors will insinuate prosecution, they like to tell people that they are in the "pre-legal" department, THEY HAVE NO PRE-LEGAL DEPARTMENT, they're just debt collectors working from home, or from the office, in Encinitas.
Some of the collectors will threaten out right with prosecution, they do this on out of statute debt. It's illegal. A bunch of debt collectors, sitting at their cubicles, dialing away. They work on commission, and salary, typically 20% of what they collect.
The company says it employs independent contractors, but they supervise employees, and monitor hours, which is technically illegal, if you're employing independent contractors.
It's probably just an I.R.S./tax evasion tactic. From what I know, their books are completely out of order. If the I.R.S. decides to take notice, I don't think Rancho Credit Management will be around for long.
As I said, though, it is a real company. If they own the debt, they won't own it six months from the time they call you; they'll sell it to someone else.
What they really want is for you to sign a promissory note saying that you will pay the debt, that way they have a binding legal document/agreement; they want to turn out of stat debt into in-stat debt. In-stat debt is worth more.


Submitted by on Tue, 08/05/2008 - 13:29

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nothing is free in this world!!!plastic fantastic is the way most americans live howbout paying cash for what you need and quit .....living like pigs buying things we dont really need and then when its time to pay the bill no body likes paying there bills thats why bill collectors and lawyers will always have a job...and for all those folks who are looking for jobs have you ever thought about a collections job.....


Submitted by on Fri, 08/15/2008 - 13:11

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Rancho credit managment is a real company that is part of the aca and cac and the bbb i looked them up. they have in and out of stat debt not only out of stat so who ever wrote the second to last comment probably got fired by that company lol pathetic and sad


Submitted by on Sat, 08/16/2008 - 16:55

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I got the same letter and I called the FTC and they refered me to double check with the ACA. They are a legit company. I called Rancho Credit Managment at 866-575-4691 and spoke to a man named Charles who was not the smartest guy but it turns out that the credit restoration program is a way to make payments and have the negative trade line be reported postive and they start a new trade line. If your looking to rebild your credit its a good tool if not then its useless.


Submitted by on Mon, 08/18/2008 - 10:40

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I guess the break down goes like this. Say you owe visa $500 and they have reported a negative trade on your credit report. If this company buys your debt and you agree to be part of the credit restoration program then what they would do is report paid in full on the negative trade that visa put and start a whole new postive trade line as if you got a whole new loan. The way that works is they have you sign a promissory agreeing to pay an ammount that you think you can afford. The upside is that you would have a positive current trade the down side is you would be paying of the whole balence to where if you have a chunk of cash saved you could probably settle the account for 40% of the debt.


Submitted by on Mon, 08/18/2008 - 15:15

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Just Pay your freekin' bill!!!! Or at least make an effort. You get youself in this mess on your own. Nobody forced you to get anything on credit. You want to live that American Dream? Its not free. Treat the situation like you were the one owed the money, and I bet you would be singing a diffrent tune! Be honest with yourself when you get something on credit. Theres probably a reason you can't afford it in cash. [font=Arial][/font][font=Times New Roman][/font][color=Blue][/color][size=3][/size][size=6][/size] :wink:


Submitted by on Tue, 08/19/2008 - 14:25

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hey mandolo who said they didn't want to pay their bills. They just want to make sure everything is valid. So if I called you asking for 10,000 on a 5,000 debt you would pay it. If you would you are an idiot sir. How about you CA's obey the law for once.

And mundog I would think most people with an education and some smarts and little decency would stay away from the collections field. Granted it takes no education or professionalism to be a collection agent. You must be so proud to be in an industry with such high turnover and low pay for the average agent.


Submitted by on Tue, 10/07/2008 - 17:31

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I was seriously past due on several accounts i'm not in san diego but i did get it. A letter about 4 months ago so i did my research and yes they are legit and i was not too sure about the credit repair deal but they broke it down for me .... I owed a furniture company about $1500 hun before i went to collections i'm sure that other agrency try to reach me or what ever but now that i'm back on my feet i'm taking charge of my debts and not going bk i cant i dont owe that much and its old stuff from 3-4 years ago ... But my little sis who was in realestate told me that they look at your credit history from the past 10 years and that thing dont magicly get removed unless i lie about my knowledge of the debt ...which is another story .. I'm recovering ..and on a program not a 12 step but close enough .. So i got a hold of them they where willing to reduce the account that had practicle doubled to close enough of the charge off amount and so i did like 10% down or so then monthly payment like $100 which is well inot my budget but they did give me a note in writting that they will show my current charge off as paid/settled in full and that they would open up a positive trade line through rancho credit and show every single paymet i make from that point on ... I haven't checked my credit yet .. But its only a $100 a month and i got one less call bill collection agency to deal with and it sounds like a win win for me anyways ..... I did google them and did see this so i thought i would share my two cents of this matter ..... At the end of the day i know i owe it and it will not go away ... Just like my child support issues but thats another story....


Submitted by on Wed, 10/08/2008 - 18:12

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RCM (Rancho Credit Management) is a scam operation. Do not take their calls, sign anything they send, or pay any debt. They typically put an extra 25% on every debt just to see if they can get away with it. Ask them to prove the debt! You will see they can't and then will sell the debt to someone else.


Submitted by on Sat, 05/02/2009 - 19:57

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But my little sis who was in realestate told me that they look at your credit history from the past 10 years


Wrong. Items only stay on your credit file for 7 years so the most they can look back is 7 years.

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but they did give me a note in writting that they will show my current charge off as paid/settled in full


Ok I saw something like this further back on this post. This is completely misleading. First, they can't guarantee that the original tradeline will report -anything- because only the company that placed it there can update it, no one else can. Normally when a company writes off and sells a debt it is simply listed as a negative account showing 0 dollars owed and a note that the debt has been written off and/or sold.

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if its on your credit report it legit unless you have a reciept showing "PAID IN FULL"


TOTAL BULL. Just because it is on your credit report does not mean it is legit. These companies do not have to show any type of proof, they just type in the information and it is now on the person's credit file...heck, even when a tradeline is posted that is a total fabrication it most often gets 'verified'. It usually takes a person suing the companies or threatening to sue to get it removed because they do not want to defend in court when they know full well they are wrong. So once more, just because something is listed on your credit report does not mean it is legit. use your common sense....if something is listed you know for a fact you never did, well then OBVIOUSLY something is not right.


Submitted by goldenbast on Mon, 07/13/2009 - 12:00

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