You might want to check out
some of that information before you type any errors, well I'm sure just
another typical debtor that needs to blame someone else.
[color=Red]****Adult term removed -
Jason[/color]
Sub: #31 posted on Thu, 12/08/2005 - 07:19
Unregistered
I've come across this thread
by accident, and I've been thoroughly entertained. Hey David Schwimmer,
I've especially enjoyed your posts. I use to work there up until 3
years ago. I've put in a fair amount of time there too (not saying how
much, but I do have a BCR logo pullover windbreaker). Depending on
where you were stationed it used to be a very profitable place to work.
Of course every time I seem to fall into a group that's like that either
the client pulled the business or I was transfer else where (much like
how you were).
Anyway its sounds like a lot of people here complain simply about
getting collection calls. I can tell you exactly how these calls go.
They know a call is from a collection agency, yet they won't ID
themselves. Then they asked a million questions, which the collector
will only answer so many (being very nonspecific to prevent 3rd party
disclosure). The person who answers the phone, wither it's the debtor
or just a family member, will be evasive themselves and become extremely
difficult and rude. If it is the debtor and they finally ID themselves
the tone is set and they start yelling, cursing, and calling the
collector names. The collector precipitates, then the debtor throws out
one last belligerent insult and hangs up.
Word of advice: Don't expect to get anywhere yelling and screaming, and
more often than not if act professional and use a professional tonality
in your voice the collector will reciprocate that (although I admit that
are collectors out there where that will never be the case). And if you
really don't want calls send or fax them a cease and desist letter. Put
it attention to one of there VPs David Winters. He's been with that
company for over 10 years.
Now with those who are getting EBay letters that sounds like shoddy
record keeping by EBay. Or they never verified the info in the first
place, so whoever originally typed it in was making it up. How can you
hold BCR accountable for accounts EBay places with them? It's obviously
EBay's fault. You can find EBay's contact info in this thread:
fatwallet.com/t/24/370363/
Courtesy of fatwallet.com, a great website.
And let me add something for those who say they never had AT&T
wireless accounts (and I'm sure this goes for Cingular too). When I
worked there we received a huge drop of business from AT&T Wireless,
only they didn't tell us that drop was from a rinky dink cell phone
company they bought out called L.A. cellular. I eventually figured it
out from the debtors I called. So if you are getting a letter and you
never opened an account with AT&T then it's probably a company they
bought out. I know there are exceptions, but from my extensive cell
phone collection experience the debtor usually knows that it's probably
a cell phone company they used to have service with that was bought out,
or they know it's for the phone they cosigned for their cousin, nephew,
friend, or whoever. They know who lives at the billing address. Almost
always with the right kind of probing the truth will come out. The rare
exceptions usually do not hesitate in filing a police report (fraud
report) to protect themselves.
Just a couple more final thoughts. Like it are not, the more irritating
and rude you are with a third party, especially a relative who lives
elsewhere or a neighbor (you can only legally do this if you don't have
a good contact #), the more likely the call will be returned and
therefore more likely the debt will get paid. Its just human nature.
Also if you think BCR is bad, just wait till you (if ever) get a call
from Academy Collections!!! You'll be yearning for the "customer
service style" approach of BCR!
Link made inactive as per forum
rules-Vikas
Sub: #32 posted on Tue, 12/27/2005 - 00:26
Unregistered
To ex BCR bill collector,
You might have BCR logo pullover windbreaker, but some letters send BCR
does not contain your company logo even and letters are not printed on
company letter-head, as complained by ???InertiacticESP'.
Also people had problem in understanding your foreign accent. Few
instances show that your company did not respond properly.
It is right that you are not accountable for the mistake done by the
original creditor. But if the same problem is being reported for quite a
long time, why don't you discuss it with your management and try to fix
the problem?
Moreover, if you are a lawful debt collector then how can you continue
collecting bills despite of knowing that the accounts are wrongly placed
with you? No one is going to entertain your calls if he does not owe. I
request your attention Mr. David Winter to solve this problem.
Thanks to this site.
Sub: #33 posted on Tue, 12/27/2005 - 09:57
Unregistered
regarding a cingular bill bcr
will not give me their address so I can send the money in the mail. nor
will they send me any info on what I owe them in the mail Are the for
real
Sub: #34 posted on Wed, 12/28/2005 - 11:29
Unregistered
I have to send a check to BCR
for an account that I had with AT&T but I don't know the address.
Is it possible to get it and any phone number to check if this is the
same office?
Sub: #35 posted on Wed, 01/04/2006 - 10:49
Unregistered
Carla GG,
Their contact address is listed here, please check it-
I am a manager at the largest
collection agency (NOT BCR)in the USA. The collection practices used by
BCR are in voilation if the FDPCA laws. BCR has contacted me after 9pm
at night, I called them and spoke to someone in there office after being
on hold for 45 mins, then right after i hung up with them , another rep
from there office called me regarding this account with AT&T and you
can not understand the reps when they do call you. I have asked the reps
if they had training on fdcpa and 2 of them stated they had never heard
of FDCPA. I have disputed my account with AT&T for a year do to
incorrect billing errors on ther side but can not seem to get them to
fix this either. I have sent a cease and desist letter to BCR in hopes
that they will violate this so i can turn the case over to an attorney
to stop the harassment of 5-10 calls per day on my phone. And I had the
same problem when I asked for there address they refused to give it to
me too. I am very glad I do not work for them...
Sub: #37 posted on Thu, 01/05/2006 - 19:11
Unregistered
i am a day sleeper that has a
real job to go to at night. you and your company persist in herrasing me
and refuse to give any information so that i can send a cease and desist
letter so here it is cease and desist or i will let my lawyer in on your
shady practice and have you dealt with. Thank you and dont ever call me
again. The person you are looking for no longer lives here. Need i say
more
Neither domain name has a valid SSL certificate. That means your
personal information will be broadcast loud and clear to any would-be
hackers looking for a meal-ticket, ie, your credit card #, your personal
identity, etc. If you don't believe me, please see these links to the
WHOIS information as well:
Read the first few lines of both pages, you will notice this: "SSL
Cert: No valid SSL on this Host, Get Secure"
Hope this helps. :)
Sub: #39 posted on Tue, 01/10/2006 - 22:23
Unregistered
Guest,
Send them cease and desist letter explaining the fact. Send it CMRRR. If
they do not stop calling you after receiving the letter, file your
complaint with FTC, BBB.
[color=Red]****Adult term removed - Jason[/color]
Sub: #31 posted on Thu, 12/08/2005 - 07:19
Anyway its sounds like a lot of people here complain simply about getting collection calls. I can tell you exactly how these calls go. They know a call is from a collection agency, yet they won't ID themselves. Then they asked a million questions, which the collector will only answer so many (being very nonspecific to prevent 3rd party disclosure). The person who answers the phone, wither it's the debtor or just a family member, will be evasive themselves and become extremely difficult and rude. If it is the debtor and they finally ID themselves the tone is set and they start yelling, cursing, and calling the collector names. The collector precipitates, then the debtor throws out one last belligerent insult and hangs up.
Word of advice: Don't expect to get anywhere yelling and screaming, and more often than not if act professional and use a professional tonality in your voice the collector will reciprocate that (although I admit that are collectors out there where that will never be the case). And if you really don't want calls send or fax them a cease and desist letter. Put it attention to one of there VPs David Winters. He's been with that company for over 10 years.
Now with those who are getting EBay letters that sounds like shoddy record keeping by EBay. Or they never verified the info in the first place, so whoever originally typed it in was making it up. How can you hold BCR accountable for accounts EBay places with them? It's obviously EBay's fault. You can find EBay's contact info in this thread:
fatwallet.com/t/24/370363/
Courtesy of fatwallet.com, a great website.
And let me add something for those who say they never had AT&T wireless accounts (and I'm sure this goes for Cingular too). When I worked there we received a huge drop of business from AT&T Wireless, only they didn't tell us that drop was from a rinky dink cell phone company they bought out called L.A. cellular. I eventually figured it out from the debtors I called. So if you are getting a letter and you never opened an account with AT&T then it's probably a company they bought out. I know there are exceptions, but from my extensive cell phone collection experience the debtor usually knows that it's probably a cell phone company they used to have service with that was bought out, or they know it's for the phone they cosigned for their cousin, nephew, friend, or whoever. They know who lives at the billing address. Almost always with the right kind of probing the truth will come out. The rare exceptions usually do not hesitate in filing a police report (fraud report) to protect themselves.
Just a couple more final thoughts. Like it are not, the more irritating and rude you are with a third party, especially a relative who lives elsewhere or a neighbor (you can only legally do this if you don't have a good contact #), the more likely the call will be returned and therefore more likely the debt will get paid. Its just human nature. Also if you think BCR is bad, just wait till you (if ever) get a call from Academy Collections!!! You'll be yearning for the "customer service style" approach of BCR!
Link made inactive as per forum rules-Vikas
Sub: #32 posted on Tue, 12/27/2005 - 00:26
You might have BCR logo pullover windbreaker, but some letters send BCR does not contain your company logo even and letters are not printed on company letter-head, as complained by ???InertiacticESP'.
Also people had problem in understanding your foreign accent. Few instances show that your company did not respond properly.
It is right that you are not accountable for the mistake done by the original creditor. But if the same problem is being reported for quite a long time, why don't you discuss it with your management and try to fix the problem?
Moreover, if you are a lawful debt collector then how can you continue collecting bills despite of knowing that the accounts are wrongly placed with you? No one is going to entertain your calls if he does not owe. I request your attention Mr. David Winter to solve this problem.
Thanks to this site.
Sub: #33 posted on Tue, 12/27/2005 - 09:57
Sub: #34 posted on Wed, 12/28/2005 - 11:29
Is it possible to get it and any phone number to check if this is the same office?
Sub: #35 posted on Wed, 01/04/2006 - 10:49
Their contact address is listed here, please check it-
http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/collectionrecovery.h tml
You can also check for their contact details with bbb.org
Sub: #36 posted on Wed, 01/04/2006 - 11:34
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Sub: #37 posted on Thu, 01/05/2006 - 19:11
Sub: #38 posted on Tue, 01/10/2006 - 17:36
Neither domain name has a valid SSL certificate. That means your personal information will be broadcast loud and clear to any would-be hackers looking for a meal-ticket, ie, your credit card #, your personal identity, etc. If you don't believe me, please see these links to the WHOIS information as well:
(http://www.whois.sc/bu reauofcollection.com)
(http://www.whois.sc/univ ersalsystems.net)
Read the first few lines of both pages, you will notice this: "SSL Cert: No valid SSL on this Host, Get Secure"
Hope this helps. :)
Sub: #39 posted on Tue, 01/10/2006 - 22:23
Send them cease and desist letter explaining the fact. Send it CMRRR. If they do not stop calling you after receiving the letter, file your complaint with FTC, BBB.
Hope this helps.
Sub: #40 posted on Wed, 01/11/2006 - 07:12
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