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Submitted by polly on Tue, 07/03/2007 - 15:20
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1.) A person should have 1000 posts in the Debtcc forum, a minimum of 6 months in the community and be admitted into the Hall of Fame.

2.) A person must be nominated by at least five other members who have sent an email or private message to Polly /Vikas.

*Admin reserves the right to modify this at any time for the good of the community. Admin also reserves the right to make exceptions to this as this is intended for a guideline only.*


My 2 cents worth... (not that it's worth much more) lol
I agree with Road also, anyone can post useless post to get to the 1000 mark but most dont' have time to do this. I've gotten loads of good, helpful information from people here with way less than 1000 posts and also gotten great advice from some with more than!
Good Luck Polly,
Ang


Submitted by Ang on Wed, 07/04/2007 - 06:08

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Mike started a thread back in March on this same issue. Maybe we can pull it out of the archives and take a peek...



Now what was the point in putting it up for discussion back then, when the ultimate outcome is really only up to Polly now???

I don't like it. I have already stated my position back then, as did other members/mods, and so I won't waste my words again in this post.


Submitted by DebtCruncher on Wed, 07/04/2007 - 08:04

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anyone can post useless post to get to the 1000 mark but most dont' have time to do this


I agree with this!! I've read alot of posts where the person is basically just summing up what the person before them had said.


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It should be quality based


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a minimum of 6 months in the community


This are two other things I agree with :)


Submitted by brownsugar on Wed, 07/04/2007 - 08:04

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My opinion for what its worth.Moderators are designated by the management team to help keep the board running.Post number,time here,and other issues are irrelevant. If this person has good information to share with members and demonstrates maturity along with a willingness to do the task,then admin makes the decision to add them or not.


Submitted by cajunbulldog on Wed, 07/04/2007 - 08:43

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From my perception going back to when I first joined, a moderator was also someone who had substantial knowledge/experience in the boards they moderated and could provide structure and benefit to those discussions in addition to housekeeping.

Since the mission statement portrays moderators as mere housekeepers, whose construction is mainly to remove spam, I agree with Cajun that all the credentials (# of posts, membership term, etc) really are not necessary. Under this scope a mod really does not need to know anything about "debt" or even actively participate, in order to press the delete button and 'can the spam'.


Submitted by DebtCruncher on Wed, 07/04/2007 - 09:02

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While I think it's good that the community is looking at criteria for moderators, I do have some concerns with what's been proposed. First off, being on the boards for 6 months is fine--but 5 nominations would lead to it being a popularity contest, I feel. And that wouldn't be proactive for anyone!
Also, who's to say what posts are helpful and what are not? What I'm trying to say is, I can see a subjective area opening up here which can't be good.


Submitted by kscornell on Wed, 07/04/2007 - 09:38

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I can see everyone's points here. I think one of the main problems we've had on this board are people simply not understanding what a mod does. I think people have gotten the wrong idea..Let's face it, we really DON'T have any special privileges, basically we DO just clean up. One thing that wasn't mentioned was the locking/deleting thing. In the past some have gotten too delete/lock happy. It seems at times things were taken away because they were not agreed with. As long as it's not an attack, it needs to stay. Everyone can take a post as they wish, no moderator can dictate what is appropriate..Unless it is excessively negative and hurtful.

I wholeheartedly agree with the nomination thing...Sure, someone could petition for nominations, but the final call is going to be up to Polly and Mike. I trust their judgement.


Submitted by finsfan13 on Wed, 07/04/2007 - 09:47

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I will add that I have edited,deleted,& locked threads in the past and caught heck from people about it.Moderators need support from other mods as well as admin. I only changed one thread that admin thought I locked too early. As long as we have guest posting and the drama going on here,I see no point to being a mod without support.


Submitted by cajunbulldog on Wed, 07/04/2007 - 11:08

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Hold up! Debt cruncher there is absolutely nothing that is ultimately up to me! I reviewed a thread from last March that was full of suggestions from all of you and Mike, Vikas and I discussed this at length!

We want the title of moderator to have more honor in the title, thus making the criteria a little higher so that it has to be earned.

Of course if you have suggestion for specific changes, share them with us. We always listen.


Submitted by polly on Wed, 07/04/2007 - 11:22

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I think all of us have been guilty in one way or another. Personally, I think every single mod here is talented and has something to offer. Cajun, you have always given terrific legal advice, your research skills are wonderful. I miss your posts. We have all also contributed to drama at some point. I agree that the board needs to be cleaned up. The only way for that to happen is for all of us to be on the same page.


Submitted by finsfan13 on Wed, 07/04/2007 - 11:47

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I have learned many things from Cajun and every other moderator on the boards and believe deeply in my heart that we all have something positive to offer the community. We all bring great skills to the table--and I for one hate the junior high crap on the boards and will not participate in that. I recently decided to make my recovery from debt my highest priority in life and will be devoted to helping others to the best of my ability--and the drama takes away from us doing that.


Submitted by kscornell on Wed, 07/04/2007 - 11:51

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Hi everyone,

We appreciate your feedbacks and understanding the importance of a mods role. After all, it's you in the community who handle this role and you should be comfortable with it. The person who deserves the role will definitely have it. Polly has already added a note about some exceptional cases as it comes by. This is an open community, so please keep putting your suggestions.

Regards
Mike


Submitted by Mike on Wed, 07/04/2007 - 12:07

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Fins, I agree with you. Debt Samaritans too play a very important role. In my opinion, it????????s like someone coming to the website for the first time, learning from other's stories, feeling confident and later, they start sharing their own experiences. It's a good feeling that makes them continue their stay. Besides, there are few new people in the community who are very informed and have huge experiences on how to tackle different situations. This is all good when we read their suggestions in different boards. They definitely deserve the role and maybe, a prospering moderator in the future. Everyone's contribution is worth in making this place big. :)


Submitted by Mike on Wed, 07/04/2007 - 16:43

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For moderator support there should be a locked sticky post on each forum that says that if a thread or post is deleted or locked there is to be no discussion about it other than whatever the mod stats the reason for the deleteion and locking. If someone wants to complain about what they feel is abuse they should do so by PM to a higher moderator or site admin.


Submitted by FYI on Thu, 07/05/2007 - 21:12

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I like that idea FYI. I have seen that on ezboard before. Admin and mods can resolve issues independently.

I think Vikas hasn't implemented this because it is his desire for the community to have a say in all matters pertaining to the board. Every person's voice gets heard and every person's voice matters regardless of their title. Guests can be just as much of an impact as a site admin this way, if logic and reason are presented.


Submitted by polly on Fri, 07/06/2007 - 08:36

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I think it is all well and good when it comes down to ideas and suggestions and even some problems. However there is a sort of relaxing atmosphere and no fear of persecution where there is an area that the upper managements can actualy add more of their own opinions in.


Submitted by FYI on Fri, 07/06/2007 - 09:07

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I,for one, disagree, and think time here is very important. I think it takes some time on the boards, to see how things run,wha'ts acceptable,etc. I didn't become a moderator for probably a year-didn't bother me- I was just honored that someone thought I had something to offer! Fins is right- we are just a clean-up,well, that's not all, but basically. Being a moderator to me means I try to encourage everyone,new or old. It also means I point them in the right direction concerning their problem. If I don't know anything about what they are talking about, I just welcome them and tell them to contact so-and-so, they have knowledge in that area. I am no better that a first time poster, guest, or long time member-just someone who wants to give back what was given to me..Karen


Submitted by Bossy4455 on Sat, 07/07/2007 - 15:42

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i agree with bossy, i think time is very important. I havent been here long, but i showed up with just a debt story. Scince then i have learned many things and are learning everyday. I believe a moderator should be pretty knowledgeable in atleast 1 area.

I commend the moderators here for always being on top of things. considering the type of forum that it is they are pretty quick, and take alot of abuse. Frankly im not sure if this a position that i would ever want.


Submitted by love_my_things on Thu, 04/09/2009 - 07:53

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In a recent post to me, Moderator Skydiver asked me the following questions which I have answered here:
1. Have I ever set foot in a courtroom without being dressed in orange and wearing handcuffs?? Answer: I've never been dressed in orange and wearing handcuffs. I have set foot in a courtroom as a juror and as a jury foreman.
2. Am I so ignornant I don't understand the importance of being properly prepared before taking someone to court?? Answer: Actually I'm getting fairly educated about it since I'm in the middle of working with my attorney outlining a case against a CA.
3. Do I think I'm playing games sitting behind a guest post and don't I understand IP addresses?? Answer: I just log on the quickest way to read and post, which is guest. I haven't seen any rules against that or seen anyone else who thinks guest status is derogatory. I understand IP address and that your IP and identity could be tracked down as well as mine.
Regarding your admonishment for me to be more mature and respectful to moderators, I have printed out your post to me as a guideline for the epitome of maturity and respect.


Submitted by on Sun, 06/13/2010 - 13:10

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I can't see the second page of this thread without posting a comment. Then the rest of the thread pops up. Thanks for the suggestion to use F5, but that didn't work either.

Others have complained of having problems too, so, hopefully these issues will be resolved by the Admin staff, they are aware. :)


Submitted by Shazzers on Sun, 06/13/2010 - 15:40

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
In a recent post to me, Moderator Skydiver asked me the following questions which I have answered here:
1. Have I ever set foot in a courtroom without being dressed in orange and wearing handcuffs?? Answer: I've never been dressed in orange and wearing handcuffs. I have set foot in a courtroom as a juror and as a jury foreman.
2. Am I so ignornant I don't understand the importance of being properly prepared before taking someone to court?? Answer: Actually I'm getting fairly educated about it since I'm in the middle of working with my attorney outlining a case against a CA.
3. Do I think I'm playing games sitting behind a guest post and don't I understand IP addresses?? Answer: I just log on the quickest way to read and post, which is guest. I haven't seen any rules against that or seen anyone else who thinks guest status is derogatory. I understand IP address and that your IP and identity could be tracked down as well as mine.
Regarding your admonishment for me to be more mature and respectful to moderators, I have printed out your post to me as a guideline for the epitome of maturity and respect.


You ever heard the expression "Beating a dead horse to death"? :rolleyes:


Submitted by Shazzers on Sun, 06/13/2010 - 15:48

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