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Allied And Sprint Must Pay

Date: Thu, 10/12/2006 - 16:35

Submitted by anonymous
on Thu, 10/12/2006 - 16:35

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I received a call from an Allied agent today. He asked for my deceased father. I asked who was calling and he hung up. Since I had received a call from the Sprint before and had explained that my father died 7/10/06, never lived at my number or address and would not paying any cell phone bill I was a little tick to have received this call and hangup. I called the number in my caller ID and got Ming Li. I began to explain that I wanted to speak to a member of management becuas the representative had called and hung up. She began to act like she could not understand me, accuse me of being rude and the overall delay game before hanging up. I called back again and received another female. I spell it all out to her and demand to speak to a member of management. I told her that I had even offered a copy of the death certificate but the company had not wanted it. She hems and hawes and states I am being rude. She refuses to trabsfer me to a member of management stating she was not going to bother management with my issue. I demand he name and badge number which she refuses to give. I tell her she should not be calling my number at all becaus ei have nver doen busines with her company or Sprint. I ask how she got my number. She lies and says my number was always the number on the acount. I tell her she is lying because my parent s have been divorced over 20 years. My father purchased that cell phone less than a year before he died. It was turned off before he died because he requested that it be turned off. She agains refuses to patch me through to a member of management. Places me on hold because I was speaking very clearly and without use of profanity I might add. She comes back to the phone and asks me if I am ready to talk to her yet. I demand to speak to management. She refuses and states I will have to take up my issue with Sprint. In short I am not Administrator of my fathers estate. No one has been appointed. My father did not live with me. He mailis now forwarde to my address due to his sudden and unexpected death. The Sprint bill comes with a forwarding label from the US Post Office clearly with his former address. At no time has SPrint ever contacted me or sent any bill to my address cause Sprint knows I was never involved with the purchase nor do I use any Sprint product. Bottomline I have never done business with them and they need to stop the harrasing phone calls. On average they call once a day and they have been told numerous times that my father is deceased and not to call anymore.


Hi! This is sad. I am sorry to hear about your father. Why not you send a cease and desist letter to them and give it the utmost legal importance? They most stop calling you after receiving your cease and desist communication. This debt is not yours, so you should not be called for this. If any actions are at all possible, Sprint will decide on this, not Allied. I assume they haven't purchased this debt yet.

If someone dies, can the debt be passed on to their children? The answer is simply no. the debts can neither be passed on to the children nor to their spouse. Usually, there is a will that controls the financial affairs after a person's death. A will distributes assets, not debts. Before the share is distributed to the heirs, the debts are paid off first.


lrhall41

Submitted by Gretchin on Thu, 10/12/2006 - 17:15

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Fedup, this is very typical behavior for collectors. They dont have any respect for you or anyone else if there is even the slightest chance that they can get money from you whether or not you accually owe any.

You need to start recording your phone calls. They often claim that your phone number is the one that is in the file, and you are right, this IS a LIE.
Your issue is not with sprint because sprint inst the company who searched for your number, they cant be botherd with it wich is why theyve sold the account to Allied.
You also cannot make any changes or corrections with sprint as you are not the account holder and they probably wont grant you access.

You need to file complaints with the BBB and FTC. There will be people on this site who will probably give you the links, phone numbers and better advise.

DO NOT let these pigs upset you, theyre just trying to get money out of you. The fact that they are harrassing you when your father has passed on is disgusting and unacceptable.

Once you get this situation cleared up be sure to fire off a letter to the head office of Allied telling them how low they really are. It might not do much because they have no morals, but at least you get to make your point clear. Put your response in a return envelope if you can find one from your fathers mail so theyre sure to open, theyll think its some poor sucker paying a fake bill.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Thu, 10/12/2006 - 17:27

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I don't have anything new to add here. The posts above say everything. I too am sorry to hear about your father.

This is the FTC complaint form

If you can name the state you live in, I will put the link of the attorney general website of your state.

Recording of the phone calls will be good. Be sure to check the laws on recording in your state. In a few states, you actually have to take the other persons' permission before recording. They might hold this point legally if you don't follow it. well, that can become another hard issue.


lrhall41

Submitted by BuildingWealth on Thu, 10/12/2006 - 17:54

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That is very sad and I'm also sorry to hear about your father. I remember in 1996 I received a letter for a past due medical bill for my father, how they got my address was beyond me. So I contacted the collector asked them "What's this about?" He proceeded to tell me it was for an ER visit my dad had at this hospital in May of 1995 (a hospital about 100 miles from his home, but near my home). I told him this was impossible, and he stated I needed to give him my father's contact info. I told him heavan, he died April of 1993 so I find it highly unlikely this was his ER bill. That was weird. I can empathize with your situation my father passed away suddenly and it is very upsetting to get calls such as yours.


lrhall41

Submitted by WHEREAMI? on Thu, 10/12/2006 - 18:06

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ok, I have a question. I am aware that it is illegal to record phonecalls in some states ( even though they can record their calls to you).


What if someone secretly records the calls, and just writes out the conversatin verbatum for legal purposes and claims they have a good memory. If you dont accually claim to have recorded the call or present the recorded call, why not do it. At least then you can describe what happened in the conversation and be confident. weall know that collection agents are professional liars.


Steeler, thats a sick story. the loser was clearly preying on the elderly. its disgusting that they call elderly people and try to scam them. this wouldnt be happening if the credit bureaus didnt hand out our files.


lrhall41

Submitted by on Fri, 10/13/2006 - 02:01

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Any collector caught in violation should be charged the same way any other person who resorts to threats, identity theft, extortion, harrassment, and bank fraud would be.

If any person who was not a collector called someone up repeatedly demanding money or payment that they are not responsible for, or digging through someones persoal afects would be charged. Pulling someones file without permission is the same as going through and opening someones mail which is a federal offence as far as I know. Filing false negative reports is the same as slander or libel.

I really dont understand how this is accually possible and how it is totally overlooked by the government. there are numerous complaints about these people and yet they are still in operation. After veiwing all the complaints about certain agencies, some of them months or yeas ago, there are still stories being reported daily about the same companies. If 1 collector gets nailed for the 1000$ penalty for being a jerk each year, its still totally worth it to keep extorting money.

Its like dealing drugs. You get a 5000$ fine and 6 moths in jail ( or whatever it is) its still worth it to keep dealing for the money you make.

Im ranting, I just dont see how this is even possible. wahts the point of keeping your wallet safe if its contents are readily availabe to anyone who can buy a mailing list??


lrhall41

Submitted by on Fri, 10/13/2006 - 02:32

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If this is in regard to a Sprint account your father had, contact Sprint directly. I used to work for them (cell phone side). If someone passes away, a copy of the death certificate is all that is needed to clear up the account. Granted, any charges prior to the person passing would still need to be resolved. However, charges incurred after should be waived, as well as no fee for breaking a contract (if one was involved).

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Im ranting, I just dont see how this is even possible. wahts the point of keeping your wallet safe if its contents are readily availabe to anyone who can buy a mailing list??


Welcome to a government administration that sees you as a dollar sign rather than a human being.


lrhall41

Submitted by jedijeff13 on Fri, 10/13/2006 - 04:53

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When calling in to collections agencies you will get a recording that calls are sometimes monitored or recorded for training purposes.

If your state allows for you not to inform someone you are recording their call then it's ok and something you can use in court. If it doesn't then I wouldn't try to get away with the good memory trick because you just might be made to prove it.


lrhall41

Submitted by FYI on Sun, 10/15/2006 - 07:59

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