For those on probabtion/parole, convicted felons

Actually laws vary from state to state. What applies in one state does not necessarily apply to another. I work with convicted felons and there is a reason why they can't get decent jobs. Depending upon how long it has been since you have been convicted of your felony and the type of felony you are convicted of (violent/arson/robbery/etc..)weigh heavily on what type of job a felon can get based on that companies policies on hiring convicted felons. And depending upon the state's pdl laws (ie: one's that allow prosecution for defaulting on a pdl) this would be a violation/condition of parole. So some may want to panic if they live in a state that allows prosecution for default.

Thank you SO much for such a positive reply for people who live in the CRAPPIEST situation life has to offer

Forgive me Ashley, but I have no sympathy for a convicted felon and I would have to say it was their own personal decision that led to their "crappy life". I am however proud of the one's I work with that have made a success of their lives and are paying back society. But in no way do I believe that they deserve sympathy for the life they created. We are all responsible for our own behavior and I don't give them sympathy for their decision to break the law. No mind you, I work with violent felons.

I meant, now mind you I work with violent felons.

I think you are lumping everyone who is convicted felon into one package, unfortunatly. I can't imagine having to work with the type of felons you do but I think in regards to my post you need to expand your mind. I am not going to debate this topic here are it would defeat the purpose of this site and would be SO way off topic. You have your beliefs about the subject and I have mine, end of discussion.

Well no you won't change my mind. I have worked with convicted felons for many years. I know the laws and I know their tricks. And no I have not lumped everybody into one package. And you do not know me Ashley, if you did, and you knew how I go to bat for these people you would rephrase what you said. I do not tolerate convicted felons who go out and reoffend and then blame it on their record. It is because of their poor decision to break the law that led to their life and it is up to them to make good on the bad situation they created. To give sympathy isn't therapeutic it only allows for excuses and pity. And I don't hand out pity. This topic is only here because you posted it. And to tell them not to panic if they are threatened with arrest gives them false hope because the laws are not the same everywhere.

The first thing I have to say is I have no sympathy for repeat offenders either. I dont know if I have sympathy for offenders. It was in the paper here today about a man that raped his daughter got her pregnant and then raped the grandaughter. Does people like this deserve sympathy? I dont think so. I think he should be castrated and that way he cant do it again. Ashley I am sorry but I do not feel their pain. They make the choice to do this and one day they will stand before the almighty JUDGE!!!!! KYSIDE38

I agree. I think to tell them not to panic if they are threatened with arrested is bad advice. You can't say that without knowing what type of crime they've been convicted of, the conditions of their parole/probation, etc...Not to mention the variations in laws. If one of my clients came to me with this I honestly would have to laugh at them when they tell me somebody told them they can't go to jail I would tell them we need to ask the judge his opinion. This is giving them the idea that "OK since I can't go to jail for this, let me go to a few more places and rack up some more bad pdl checks for some extra cash" This is such a touchy area because you are giving advice about certain conditions you know nothing about and I hope to GOD that no convicted felon is in that situation and took that as sound advice. They may lose their freedom.

What does any of this have to do with debt consolidation and paying bills?

Guest you are right, the answer would be nothing.

The guest is right- this has nothing to do with what this forum is about. We are here to educate people on debt ,learning how not to make the same mistakes, and hopefully become debt free. While we do support others going through the process of this, this is not a search for pen pals, or debating how wronged we think someone is. I will get plenty of replies to this, and I'll tell you now, I won't discuss or debate the issue. I,too, work with probation and parole, and my personal thoughts on this really don't matter. I am here to help others learn how to get out of debt and learn what rights they have to do so,and support them in the process....Karen

I agree with you Bossy.

My only reason to responding to the post was because it was sending the wrong info. to somebody who may be in that situation. I do agree with you it doesn't belong here.

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Jedi, he will have many "special friends" awaiting his arrival at the pen. He will probably be all used up by the time he leave the county jail.

I know I have only been on this site a short time. But my understanding is fraud is fraud. if someone takes a PDL with the intention of not paying it back that would be fraud. most that i have read here are People that take these to help out and pay and pay and pay until they have paid more then the loan times 10 plus...
A ex con or not should have criminal charges for fraud... fraud is not getting in debit due to PDL again that have been paid and now we are paying intrest at a loan shark rate. at this point i believe that the PDL's are commiting the fraud..
Just my 2cents worth...

In some states they allow for prosecution under passing bad checks law when closing an account or stopping payment on a check for a pdl. I don't think they can go after anybody for fraud, just passing bad checks, whether it's a convicted felon or just anybody without a record. Usually if you are contacted by the prosecutors office you are given the chance to clear up the matter before they arrest you.

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Rapists/molesters disgust me. So do drug dealers, murderers, thiefs, abusers.

I do feel for the felons incorrectly charged...My Chris for example.

He had bought for his mom a Pamered Chef onion holder thing...It looks like a hair pick. It's used to hold an onion or tomato in place while you slice it. He put it in his pocket to take it home and thought little about it.

He went to the high school to pick up a friend of his. It was right after Columbine, and the school was searching people as they came in the door. They found his onion holder(Still in the packaging) and freaked out. Called the police and charged him with carrying a concealed weapon on school property. He never threatened anybody.

He went to court, and under bad advice from his attorney, plead guilty. He was told that if he did this, the judge would take it easy on him since he had no prior record. Instead he was found guilty and spent 3 months in jail. And by the way--NO ONE has ever been injured in an act of violence with a Pampered Chef onion holder....But Madison county wanted to make an example of him.

He hasn't even had a speeding ticket since, but has to check that box on his job applications asking if he's been convicted of a felony. It will be another 3 years before he can have it expunged.

That is awful Jessi. Sounds like they were looking for drama at the expense of an innocent party. I'm sorry to hear that. I think the small counties and small town law enforcement get bored sometimes and look for drama. Just my opinion.

More like Good old West Jefferson. If he would have played football, he wouldn't have been in trouble. I could rant for hours on the politics of that town. lol

Thank God he wasn't stopped in New Rome! And thank GOD New Rome no longer exists! The law enforcement were the felons there.

Get this- A few years ago my brother was pulled over in East Brookfield, MA for a broken taillight, then subsequently arrested for possession of a dangerous weapon because he was wearing....a necklace with spikes on it! He's into the whole heavy metal-goth thing, he just wears that jewelry ornamentally. He did have to go to court, but the judge threw the case out.

That's disgusting, Ari.

A friend of Chris's, that happens to be black drove through West Jeff a few months back. (W.J. is a very racist town) they pulled Jim over for "looking suspicious."

that's called DWB (driving while black)

what happened to your beau really pisses me off, that is by far not right. those who arrested and charged your Chris are the real criminals, they f'd up his life.

I wish that people would register before they post.

chagrin, why should it matter if people are registered or not? Some of us non registered users don't wish to register. It does not make us any less of a participant than you. And we even have
helpful info sometimes. Pease find something else to wish for or at least keep that kind of comment to yourself. Sorry for the rant, but it gets tiring seeing comments about guests like yours. The only thing the post was missing was telling us to come out of hididng and reveal our true identity. Please.

Nice little third world attitude you have there, "guest". No need to take things so personal, it was only a comment. If it is so tiring, register and choose a user name, I see no reason to hide - I registered and I think more people should. It's called participation, and making an investment in your participation here. That's my opinion, deal with it, or keep crying about it - your choice.

I think the point Chagrin was trying to make is that there are those that come here only to post negative and deragatory remarks about those who are seeking advice for their debt situations. And if there was a screening process it cold potentially eliminate those who are not here to truly help others or those who come here seeking advice.

thank you

You are welcome! :D I just didn't read all that into your post. It was short, simple, and to the point. And a very good point. I guess I'll just wait for a negative response to what I just posted! :D

I wish I had a million dollars, but I don't. So I have to live with it. Can't always get what we want. Steelers, you surprised me, it is never a good point to try to keep people different from you out.

Uh oh, here comes the political rant - fire away guest; I am all ears. And who the heck said anything about keeping different people out?

You really have a chip on your shoulder, don't you - mr or ms guest? I suggest you get over yourself and stop trying to stir up crap on the board, I just said I wished more people would register, and I still feel that way.

Steelers1, I understand completely the point you are making. And I appreciate your response. It was not my intention to ruffle anyones feathers. I am sure you are well aware of the negative posts that non members receive here. All you have do is read. My reply to chagrin was not meant to be personal, unlike his/her reply (third world attitude) to me was. My opinion remains the same. Chagrin, I stand by my original post, and if I offended you, sorry. Third world attitude however is a looking for a fight remark. Maybe you should also think before you post.

Nobody is trying to keep people out. Everyone is welcome. But what isn't necessary are the one's who come here for the sole purpose to degrade and make rude comments just for the sake of doing so. I don't think that is appropriate for people who come to the forum seeking advice on their debt situation to be battered because they have debt. :(

Steelers1, I agree with you completely. Chagrin, with the exception of this statement, I am not going to waste any time responding to you.

I am not doing this post to anyone's side, neither am I pointing to anyone. I just thought for once about future visitors who will come to this website and scroll pages back and forth. When they come to this topic, what understanding will it give to anyone.. Please!!

Food for thought..

2nd class guest - I could care less if you respond, but don't come here and start telling me what to do "Pease find something else to wish for or at least keep that kind of comment to yourself." because my comment was meant to make a quick point, you took it way too personally, so if I touched a nerve, that's your problem.

Fine with me if you choose not to respond, and and perhaps you should quit sucking up to other people, it doesn't help your cause.

In the meantime, I don't look for fights, but I won't sit here and be scolded by anyone, especially someone who hasn't registered.
I also consider the case closed, but don't expect me not to respond to any other comment from you.

Why don't you all grow up and stick to the issues of debt? There are plenty of websites where you can argue with other people. You sound like a bunch of school kids. Go find one of them and leave us who are in need of help alone.

Guest, this thread was started under Debt Consolidation/Debt Settlement, and you are correct, this thread does not belong in this arena. It should have been posted in the Pub/Feedback Forum where topics other than debt related topics are discussed on this site. It is for discussing other outside interest and a place to just vent if need be.

Is that so, guest?

I am also here for help, and have received plenty - I also have contributed. I am not going to sit here and be chastised by people like that, or you for that matter.

Hi

If someone feels that a moderator should lock this thread and prevent further insult, please post.

Regards
Mike

Go ahead and lock it, because I am not going to shut up while people like that attack me for making one little comment.

My apologies to everyone, this thread became a ground to do personal attacks. To stop here, I lock this thread.

Regards
Mike