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My LVNV story and questions

Date: Mon, 04/16/2007 - 18:40

Submitted by anonymous
on Mon, 04/16/2007 - 18:40

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My boyfriend got a collection letter for a debt he had from 1995 from "Vital Recovery Services" who works for "LVNV Funding." He called to find out what it was regarding, and they said it was an old utility bill. At first I was wary of it as a scam, but I called his old utility company and found out that he actually did owe him $, so I said "well, we might as well pay it." They were offering what I thought was a good offer of %50 off the original balance.

When I called, the guy rushed me into paying through a credit card, rather than via check, and I thought it seemed a bit fishy, but I stupidly did it anyway. My boyfriend had not so good credit for a long time, and I guess we were just eager to keep it on track.

Anyway, after that, I felt weird about it, so I did some research. Turns out, we were WAY past the statute of limitations on the loan, there was no record of it on his credit, and this company is actually a "junk debt" buyer and is innumerable lawsuits and apparently everybody hates them. Seems most people know to stay away from their scams, as well. I'm usually more savvy than that, so I was very pissed at myself for falling for this. I also learned that making a payment essentially "re-opens" the old loan, meaning that now it could very well show up on his credit.

Anyway, I called them back and told them to forget it - I didn't want to pay on this and I wanted my moeny back. After 20 minutes of the guy hemming and hawing about how it had already gone through, he put his manager on at my request. The manager was a complete a**hole, swore at me, and called my boyfriend dishonest repeatedly for not wanting to pay on a loan that was his responsibility (but which had been long forgotten by the debtor). He even said to me "he's so dishonest, he hasn't even married you yet!" He was so enraged during the conversation that I could literally hear his spit flying. He also hung up in my ear.

I tried to go from the other end and have my credit card company block it, but they said it had essentially gone through already, even though it's still technically "pending." They did recommend switching my card number to prevent future activity from them, which I did. They also said I can try disputing it after it goes through.

To make matters worse, the original worker from "Vital Recovery Services" called me from his _personal_ phone and begged me not to dispute it because it could get him fired. I tired to brush him off, but he was persistent and repetitive. I was just creeped out that he had taken down my number and called me unsolicited like that. Definitely a shady operation from start to finish.

If you've read this far, good for you. :) My question is, should I just suck it up and hope that they're out of my life forever? It was $280, which is not a ton of money, but we're not rich by any stretch of the imagination and that hurts us financially. I really want to dispute it because it was so obviously a scam and because they were so creepy, but I fear for my boyfriend's credit being screwed up in some way. I've heard that they can pretty ruthlessly attack people's credit with no real basis. Another question - did they even have a right to take a payment from me, since it was not legitimately my account? If not, maybe I can pursue the dispute from that angle?

Thank you for any and all advice!

-Pea


Sounds like you're doing the right things. I wouldn't worry about the collector getting fired. He's obviously up to something else. It's beyond ethics to call up someone on your personal phone (as in your situation) and go on about getting fired.

Many others know more than I do on this matter. But if the payment goes through, I wouldn't think you'll ever see that money again.


lrhall41

Submitted by Law Student on Mon, 04/16/2007 - 18:52

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I'm going back and forth about whether I should even pursue this any further. I mean, now that the proverbial floodgates have opened and they're aware of him, even if I do dispute it and have it removed from my credit card, they'll likely just keep hounding him and racking up negative points on his credit.

If I just leave it alone and allow it to process, will this really be a negative on his report? It's paid off now, supposedly. I checked his report and there wasn't even any indication that this debt ever existed. That would really stink if now it actually shows up and serves to lower his score!


lrhall41

Submitted by on Mon, 04/16/2007 - 19:09

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I agree with you, Morningstar. I'm probably just going to suck it up and leave it alone unless anyone else has compelling reasons why I should dispute it. It just really, really stinks. I wish I had just ignored the paper and I hope that someone else learns from my mistake. I'm going to New Orleans to volunteer next month and the cost of the plane ticket? $280. *sigh*

Thanks for all advice so far,

Pea


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 04/17/2007 - 04:49

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Did you rep. yourself as his wife? Did he speak to VRS and give them permission to talk to you about his debt?

If the answers to these questions are no, then your BF might want to look for an attorney. He could have a case for an 1. If you speak with an attorney, they could discuss the merits of the potential case. The biggest hurdle would probably be the notes that the collector you spoke with entered on the account (it could boil down to your word vs. their word, and without proof, then case dismissed).


lrhall41

Submitted by Morningstar on Tue, 04/17/2007 - 05:10

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Nope - just his girlfriend. I called them again to see if this would negatively reflect his credit in any way, and again they were rude, aggressive, talked over me, and hung up the phone before I could finish. I'm afraid to keep pursuing it for fear that they'll tarnish his record further, but I really want to stick it to them because I absolutely cannot believe how flagrantly rude they are to people.

-Pea


lrhall41

Submitted by on Tue, 04/17/2007 - 05:38

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