Is it just me or are the people dumb??

Hummmm well if you have any inkling to re-elect Clinton to the presidency ( c'mon we all know Bill was to stupid to pull it off on his own).. remember that experience, and figure that is the quality of health care you can expect to receive under her Nationalized health care plan.

I think we just need a whole new regime..I haven't been impressed with a republican or democrat in years(well since I was old enough to care about that stuff) So i guess we are pretty much talking about GW and BC

Do not try to call the IRS. You will lose all your cell phone minutes while you are on hold. Go to the local IRS office if you have one nearby. I have been there several times trying to work out a payment plan and file for the year I was unemployed (Ouch! Who passed the tax your unemployment check rule?) I found them very easy to deal with. They even give you a customer satifaction report to fill out.
I tried to do it by phone but it was impossible. You will wait forever for forms to come in the mail. You may be dealing with 2 or more different offices. People will make you answer the same questions over again. It is maddening. I am going to the office tomorrow to tell them that I can't afford the payment plan they say I can. If I don't have 285.00 left over each month then how can I afford to pay it to them. I am going to try for CNC or currently not collectible. Wish me luck please.

Trust me, calling the IRS is a waste of time. Been there, done that, got carpal tunnel from pressing this number, that number, and then fell asleep on hold.

I filed amended taxes 1.5 years ago, and have yet to see my check. They claim they sent it out and it was returned due to an incorrect address....I gave them the correct address, and have yet to see it. They claim it was sent out over 6 months ago to the correct address. It hasn't been cashed, either. At this point, I'm so frustrated that I've just given up and decided if the money ever shows up, I'll just count it as a blessing. But I've given up looking for it.

OH well you two had it rough...all I needed them to do was put my taxes back in my old name because I never legally changed my name....I was on hold forever but once the lil girl figured out what I needed it took her all of 3 minutes to do and for it to go through...

Leah, I am glad that you were at least able to get it taken care of. Sue and Frogpatch...sorry to hear about your IRS problems. Fortunately I have never had to call the IRS before.

Like Sue and frog said,any complicated problems with Irs should be sent in writing or go to their office.Right hand clueless what left does and they are responsible for our tax dollars,go figure!

Whenever you need anything changed by the IRS - do it in writing, so you have proof. I has a ss discrepancy and it was a good thing I used paperwork, because I had to prove it later. It is worth the time to mail it in. Suebee - as frustrating as it is, keep on them for your money. By this time, they owe you interest also. I will say that I did have a good experience with the local office on some business back taxes. They worked with me on my shcedule. I can't say it would always be like that - but just as with the letters to CA's certified certified certified!

I just think they're all stupid.....sorry if that offends....rahter, let me change that....they want us to think that we are all stupid.....I would never wish anything bad on anyone :twisted: ....but, Lord help any of the people that I have been dealing with if they ever get the illnesses that I am dealing with and then have to go to their very own agencies when they get turned over for collection.

Amen to that Moondanzer. I couldn't have said it better myself :)

no kidding - I can remember a time when I had about 8 medical bills to pay with only an extra $120 a month....they don't seem to get it that you can only spead it so far. If only some of them could walk a mile in someone else's shoes, it would make alot of difference.

I am offened by the title.. about people being dumb and the statement about being stupid..
I raised my son never to call anyone Dumb or Stupid it is very offensive to me.. almost abusive
I think that it could have been said in a different way and I cringe when i see the subject title..
and trust me I am not a prude just Certain things just get under my skin

Oh for crying out loud! This forum is just ridiculous anymore...sorry my choice of words offended you!

I, too, have raised my children not to use the word "stupid" in reference to a person...but I realize there are others who use it, and it doesn't bother me. I work in a company that is 90% men...and foul-mouthed men at that. I hear words much worse than "dumb" or "stupid" every day, several times a day. I can overlook its use here. It's a word. - nothing more, nothing less. It's not profane or vulgar, and wasn't targeting any forum members.

I agree. I hear much worse things said every day and I know Leah who is such a great person and did not mean any offense to anyone.

Well I guess we should all tiptoe around so that no one gets offended....So I guess from now on if someone offends me I will be SURE TO CRY ABOUT IT!
God Bless, ya try to help people out and someone wants to get offended over the word dumb??? SORRY FOR BEING A PROBLEM!

Leah -

It was only one person who saw it as a problem - she voiced her opinion, and we responded that we didn't think it was a problem. It shouldn't be one now - I wouldn't worry about it. Everyone has an opinion, and some react differently to things that the rest of us see as commonplace and non-offensive. That's all.