new law
Date: Tue, 07/10/2007 - 11:05
Submitted by smithmapleshade
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Tue, 07/10/2007 - 11:05
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Commissioner concerning Payday Loans. Payday lending is deemed to be a
prohibited activity in the State of New Jersey based on the criminal usury
limitations (N.J.S.A. 2C:21-19), however, there is no actual law that
specifically addresses Payday lending. Thanks for the opportunity to be of
assistance.
Right, most states that have ursury caps don't specifically proh
Right, most states that have ursury caps don't specifically prohibit payday loans, but most payday loan companies won't bother lending at that rate, so an ursury cap effectivly shuts down payday loans. So payday loans in itself isn't banned, but charging an interest rate higher then the cap is, and no payday loan company is going to lend for such a low rate.
goudah...that's an interesting thing you just said...it made a l
goudah...that's an interesting thing you just said...it made a light bulb go off here. I have been having trouble interprting the Indiana law and my DFI guy wasn't much help explaining it..it says legal..but then lists the %'s etc. And I thought it meant legal if licensed but of course they are not. If I look up under just usury laws...could I get them on that??
Possibly, but if you state does have specific laws regarding pdl
Possibly, but if you state does have specific laws regarding pdl's then those would probably be a better bet.
Sometimes it's difficult to get info from the DFI - I'm gonna call them right now with some specific questions and see if I can get anything else for you.
Okay, i have to find another number to call. The 800 number onl
Okay, i have to find another number to call. The 800 number only works if you are "in the calling area". Ughh . . .
Okay, I found the other number . . . . But have only managed to
Okay, I found the other number . . . . But have only managed to get people's voicemails . . . . I will keep trying . . . .
Just in case anyone was interested in what 2C:21-19 states. Q
Just in case anyone was interested in what 2C:21-19 states.
Quote:
2C:21-19. Wrongful credit practices and related offenses a. Criminal usury. A person is guilty of criminal usury when not being authorized or permitted by law to do so, he: (1) Loans or agrees to loan, directly or indirectly, any money or other property at a rate exceeding the maximum rate permitted by law; or (2) Takes, agrees to take, or receives any money or other property as interest on the loan or on the forbearance of any money or other interest in excess of the maximum rate permitted by law. For the purposes of this section and notwithstanding any law of this State which permits as a maximum interest rate a rate or rates agreed to by the parties of the transaction, any loan or forbearance with an interest rate which exceeds 30% per annum shall not be a rate authorized or permitted by law, except if the loan or forbearance is made to a corporation, limited liability company or limited liability partnership any rate not in excess of 50% per annum shall be a rate authorized or permitted by law. Criminal usury is a crime of the second degree if the rate of interest on any loan made to any person exceeds 50% per annum or the equivalent rate for a longer or shorter period. It is a crime of the third degree if the interest rate on any loan made to any person except a corporation, limited liability company or limited liability partnership does not exceed 50% per annum but the amount of the loan or forbearance exceeds $ 1,000.00. Otherwise, making a loan to any person in violation of subsections a.(1) and a.(2) of this section is a disorderly persons offense. b. Business of criminal usury. Any person who knowingly engages in the business of making loans or forbearances in violation of subsection a. of this section is guilty of a crime of the second degree and, notwithstanding the provisions of N.J.S. 2C:43-3, shall be subject to a fine of not more than $ 250,000.00 and any other appropriate disposition authorized by N.J.S. 2C:43-2. c. Possession of usurious loan records. A person is guilty of a crime of the third degree when, with knowledge of the nature thereof, he possesses any writing, paper instrument or article used to record criminally usurious transactions prohibited by subsection a. of this section. d. Unlawful collection practices. A person is guilty of a disorderly persons offense when, with purpose to enforce a claim or judgment for money or property, he sends, mails or delivers to another person a notice, document or other instrument which has no judicial or official sanction and which in its format or appearance simulates a summons, complaint, court order or process or an insignia, seal or printed form of a federal, State or local government or an instrumentality thereof, or is otherwise calculated to induce a belief that such notice, document or instrument has a judicial or official sanction. e. Making a false statement of credit terms. A person is guilty of a disorderly persons offense when he understates or fails to state the interest rate, or makes a false or inaccurate or incomplete statement of any other credit terms. f. Debt adjusters. Any person who shall act or offer to act as a debt adjuster shall be guilty of a crime of the fourth degree. "Debt adjuster" means a person who either (1) acts or offers to act for a consideration as an intermediary between a debtor and his creditors for the purpose of settling, compounding, or otherwise altering the terms of payment of any debts of the debtor, or (2) who, to that end, receives money or other property from the debtor, or on behalf of the debtor, for payment to, or distribution among, the creditors of the debtor. "Debtor" means an individual or two or more individuals who are jointly and severally, or jointly or severally indebted. The following persons shall not be deemed debt adjusters for the purposes of this section: an attorney at law of this State who is not principally engaged as a debt adjuster; a nonprofit social service or consumer credit counseling agency licensed pursuant to P.L.1979, c.16 (C.17:16G-1 et seq.); a person who is a regular, full-time employee of a debtor, and who acts as an adjuster of his employer's debts; a person acting pursuant to any order or judgment of court, or pursuant to authority conferred by any law of this State or of the United States; a person who is a creditor of the debtor, or an agent of one or more creditors of the debtor, and whose services in adjusting the debtor's debts are rendered without cost to the debtor; or a person who, at the request of the debtor, arranges for or makes a loan to the debtor, and who, at the authorization of the debtor, acts as an adjuster of the debtor's debts in the disbursement of the proceeds of the loan, without compensation for the services rendered in adjusting such debts. |
MorningStar, I'm from Indiana as well, so I'm curious as to what
MorningStar, I'm from Indiana as well, so I'm curious as to what the answer will be here.. I've sent an email off to the Attorney General yesterday, so I'll let you know what they have to say about my little PDL problem.
I know the law information from Indiana says they are legal, however, the letter that I've seen (and been sending to the pdl companies) seems to verify that they illegal if they are not licensed in Indiana..
Do you think they purposely make this stuff difficult to understand? lol.
Thanks for all the hard work you guys have put into this. It's helped me out immensly!!!
Jen
I called and spoke with Dave from the Indiana DFI yesterday. He
I called and spoke with Dave from the Indiana DFI yesterday. He was really helpful. When I called I left a voicemail but he called back in 10 minutes. While we were on the phone I could hear his phone ringing almost the entire time. It sounded like he was used to getting calls about PDL's.
Jen - This thread is really old. From last year - So I'ev gotte
Jen - This thread is really old. From last year - So I'ev gotten my answers . . . . What did you need to know?
Mostly I was just curious about what their take was on the whole
Mostly I was just curious about what their take was on the whole thing. I think I've gotten all my answers as I've gotten my last PDL marked as PIF now. :D :D :D Thank you for all your hard work and knowledge!!!!!
Jen