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Ohioans - write your government re pdls!

Date: Thu, 08/23/2007 - 19:20

Submitted by b_seifert
on Thu, 08/23/2007 - 19:20

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In order to effect positive change, I encourage (and beg) all Ohioans (and anyone else having pdl issues in other states)to write to the governor, the AG, your senators, your representatives, the deptartment of commerce and tell them about your problems with pdls. I recently wrote a letter to Ohio Governor Strickland and Attorney General Marc Dann about the trouble I've been having with pdls. I courtesy copied my sentator and representative as well. Gov Strickland and the AG Consumer Protection both replied to me and I took the responses as positive. The AG Consumer Protection letter stated that they would keep my letter on file in order to document any trends in recurring complaints against these companies and attached to the letter was a blank complaint form. The letter from the Governor stated that he would pass my issue on to Dept of Commerce. A few days later, I received a call from the DoC Legislative Director about my letter. He thanked me for my letter and asked me several questions and my OPINIONS on how I would like to see these companies change. He also said that Gov Strickland takes these pdl issues very seriously and wants to do something about them. I am going to file a complaint with the AG office. Although they've done nothing illegal - it doesn't mean that their shabby treatment of us is right.

I have not yet heard from my rep or my senator yet, so I re-sent them the letter along with a note that I'm re-sending the letter as I have not received a response from my first letter and I asked them what they intend to do to help me and their many other constituents who are having problems with pdls.

Keep in mind - WE ARE THE PEOPLE. We may have made a dumb mistake with pdl's but it doesn't make us second class citizens. Our voices and votes are just as important as everyone else's so unless we say something, nothing will be done about it.

Thanks for hearing me out!


b - Wonderful move on your part! :D And I agree with you. I do believe I will get my contacts in my state and write a letter. What the hell do I have to lose? Nothing. Internet lending is illegal in my state. Store fronts are not. However, I don't care legal/illegal. I'm going to do what you are "begging" others to do. I'm sure many others will read your post and agree also. Anthony will probably really be on your side regarding this! Thank you for posting - and you have one more person who will be writing letters. I'm not in Ohio, but I'll stand up for the people in my state!


lrhall41

Submitted by cannr on Thu, 08/23/2007 - 19:39

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Thanks, b! Love that song and I also believe it fits our situation! If I could have, I would have quoted the entire song! LOL! Actually, I think posting your letter would be quite good. I'm interested in hearing what you had to say. It would also be a good example for someone like me to use as an "example" to type up my own for my state contacts!


lrhall41

Submitted by cannr on Thu, 08/23/2007 - 20:22

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Gladly! I seem to be having difficulty attaching the letter possibly due to this computer's security settings. So instead, I've copied and pasted it below. It's quite lengthy so hope it all comes out OK. I've modified it only slightly to delete my personal information.

Quote:

August 1st, 2007

Governor Ted Strickland
Riffe Center, 30th Floor
77 South High Street
Columbus, OH 43215-6108

Dear Governor Strickland:

I am compelled to write you in response to the July 23rd Columbus Dispatch article ???????Payday lenders: Service or trap???????? which discusses the rapid increase in storefront payday lenders in Ohio and the division among Ohio lawmakers regarding state regulation of these institutions

First of all, I applaud Senator Ray Miller, Representatives Bill Batchelder and Matt Lundy, and Bill Faith for being outspoken advocates for Ohio consumers caught in the vicious cycle of payday loans and for pushing for tougher laws to protect the citizens of Ohio - not the payday lenders. The idiotic comments of Representatives Joyce Beatty and Christopher Widener and Mr. Darryl Dever are a clear indication as to how woefully ignorant they are about the true concerns of those who find themselves in a financial bind and have no other resources and no other alternative but to turn to these predatory lenders who, without stricter regulations, are no better than common loan sharks.

Representative Beatty????????s feeble assessment of the situation appears to be based upon the fact that she talked to a few folks waiting in line for a loan who told her that these were the only places that would cash their checks. Then she goes on to make the ridiculous statement that nobody is calling her to ask that the lending establishments be closed down. I am not disputing that these institutions can provide a valuable service to those who otherwise have no other place to turn and I have no doubt that very few people have asked that they be closed ???????? they have no other resources. It would also make sense that consumers who use payday lending establishments ARE reluctant to speak out against them for fear that their only option will be taken away from them. Representative Beatty is evading the real issue at hand - how these establishments treat their customers if God forbid they find they are unable to pay back these loans in full and despite several proactive attempts to make payment arrangements, they receive harassing phone calls numerous times a day, are threatened with legal action and wage garnishment, and phone calls are made to application references and family members disclosing detailed, personal information regarding the loan.

I resent Representative Widener????????s arrogance in saying that he doesn????????t see the need to cap rates or make other regulatory changes. I have no doubt that Representative Widener doesn????????t see the need. Could that be because he????????s never had to resort to turning to these places for help and has never been subjected to their shabby treatment? I don????????t believe that Representative Widener will ever find himself or a loved one in the clutches of this vicious cycle, therefore, it doesn????????t surprise me that he ???????doesn????????t see the need.??????? What an arrogant thing to say.

Darryl Dever disagrees that the majority of borrowers are using one loan to pay off another. I am really interested in seeing the statistical data and in-depth research and interviews from which he drew this asinine, misinformed conclusion.

To reiterate Representative Lundy????????s statement, something needs to be done to regulate this particular industry so that they are more consumer friendly. Unfortunately, the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act does not cover the business practices of payday lenders who currently operate with virtual impunity when dealing with consumers. I am not asking that these establishments be shut down. I am however, asking the following:

??????? Lower percentage rates.
??????? Regulate collection methods and practices so that they cannot harass or abuse customers.
??????? Enforce a cooperative willingness to establish a re-payment schedule to consumers that proactively request it. If consumers do not honor their re-payment obligations, then by all means, the lenders should pursue collection actions ???????? within reason and without fear of harassment and humiliation to the consumer.

In closing, Governor Strickland, I write this letter as one who is very experienced in the payday loan vicious cycle. Contrary to Mr. Dever????????s claim, I have had to take out payday loans to pay previous payday loans. I was even ENCOURAGED by these establishments to do so thus ensuring that I stay in their trap. I had three to four loans out at one time and after it was too late, I realized I was in over my head. In my attempt to remedy the situation, I made initial contact with these establishments ???????? CheckSmart, Express Payroll Advance, Cashland and National Check Cashers and notified them that I wouldn????????t be able to pay the loans in full and I requested a re-payment schedule. I made it very clear to them that I fully intend to honor my debt and pay it in full over time, but they told me ???????we don????????t do payment plans.??????? National Check Cashers was the only exception, however, they wanted high payments within a short amount of time, which I tried to honor but couldn????????t afford. My only recourse was to stop payment on the checks and close my checking account. I followed up with a letter to each organization (see enclosed) explaining my situation hoping they would work with me. They are still calling me numerous times a day including calling me at work. One of the collectors even called my aunt and left her a detailed message that I owed them money. I find this highly unethical. Another collector for CheckSmart known only as Mr. Moore was very rude and disrespectful. After leaving me two messages, I called him back and he insulted me, kept interrupting me and twisted my words. I told him I have every intention of paying the debt in full, but my only recourse was to make payments over time. According to Mr. Moore, I was telling him that I have no intention of paying my loan. Our conversation ended with him saying that he will be contacting my employer.

Please Governor Strickland, make these establishments accountable for their actions when they harass and verbally abuse their customers. I ask that you support legislation that will mandate consumer rights similar to the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act concerning payday lending establishments.

cc: Attorney General Marc Dann
Senator Steve Stivers
Senator Ray Miller
Representative Ted Celeste
Representative Bill Batchelder
Representative Matt Lundy
Representative Joyce Beatty
Representative Christopher Widener
Mr. Bill Faith
Mr. Darryl K. Dever
Ms. Audrey Hutchings, Ohio Dept. of Commerce


Enclosures


lrhall41

Submitted by b_seifert on Fri, 08/24/2007 - 06:37

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I have tears in my eyes as I read your letter, b. It is worded beautifully. You captured the heartbreak of being imprisoned by these pdl's. Your statement regarding them or one of their loved ones being in the situation was wonderful. Your letter touched me. And I can see why you were contacted regarding it by the agencies you sent it to. Maybe it wouldn't mean as much to an individual who had never had to take out a pdl before, but from the standpoint of an individual who has had to resort to this, it touches my heart and brings tears to my eyes. I'm actually proud to have you as a member of this community. And, I will print that letter out to use as an example to send out my own letters. It is a beautiful, heartfelt, true to the heart letter regarding the life of living in the pdl cycle. Thank you, b. I do hope others read this and find it as wonderful as I did.


lrhall41

Submitted by cannr on Fri, 08/24/2007 - 19:57

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Very good letter and you may have given me courage to do the same. Did you send this by USPS or email? I encountered the same here, stores telling you to go to there "sister" shops so you can repay them back. I was in this web for 3+ years with a total of 12 store pdl's when I finally saw the light. I am happy to find this website and Town & Country. My battle is not over yet, as I still get phone calls to go to there store repay them and re-write a loan the same day. I have told them I have 12 and they have gotten there last check from me. They still don't care and I been a loyal customer for 3 freaking years. I guess I would be upset if I was loosing at least 120 dollars per month.


lrhall41

Submitted by Ryan_N on Sat, 08/25/2007 - 16:31

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I sent letters through the USPS to the Governor and the AG and I e-mailed to the rest on the courtesy copy list. I'm wondering if that has something to do with why I didn't hear from my rep and my senator so I re-sent the letter to them via the mail. I hope to hear from them soon. If not, then I'll send them ANOTHER letter and another one and another one until I get a response.

By all means, please send a letter to your government. These payday lending institutions have sprouted up throughout the nation so rapidly within the last few years that I think the laws haven't had a chance to catch up with them. I think a lot of people are reluctant to write and complain to their government because they feel ashamed of having made such a foolish financial decision and they feel they somehow brought it all on themselves and deserve the treatment they are getting. That just isn't true! We DON'T deserve to be treated like common trash just because we made some bad financial choices.

And please, I ask everybody to please tell as many people as you can to write letters to their local government. The only way the laws are going to change on how they treat us is if we insist upon it.


lrhall41

Submitted by b_seifert on Sat, 08/25/2007 - 19:27

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b, I also encourage people to do this. There is no reason to feel ashamed to write regarding this situation. We need to be heard. And we would also be helping others who don't write. We would be helping (hopefully) others who may have to take out a pdl in the future. With all the members we have in this community, I do hope we are not the only ones who feel this way. I do hope that many, many others will also write. You are an inspiration, b.


lrhall41

Submitted by cannr on Sat, 08/25/2007 - 19:34

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