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A friendly warning!

Date: Thu, 09/13/2007 - 13:52

Submitted by spy_kittie
on Thu, 09/13/2007 - 13:52

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While in search of a second chance lender I came across a company called SECOND CHANCE FINANCIAL GROUP secondchancegrp.com and filled out the application.

Their site offers the promise of a minimum $8,000 loan with no credit check based on your income.

24 hours after applying we received a phone call from a cell phone number informing us that we were approved, but that they needed an upfront $900 "insurance" fee. When we asked them to email us the information, we received an email from a yahoo account with a shoddy contract and such attached. In this contract there were several company names that I could not verify online. I have reached dead ends with every turn for this company.

We told them we would be in touch without giving them any of our personal info (i.e. SSN, bank account, etc.) all they have is our address & phone number.

They called back twice last night and were very unprofessional. They called back again this morning. When my husband informed them that we could not verify the information they gave us the woman on the phone handed the call off to a man who sounded professional, but refused to answer some of our questions.

My husband then informed him that I am a private investigator (going to PI school, but they don't need to know that part) and that we were unsuccessful in verifying any of their information. When my husband informed the man on the phone that it is illegal to ask for money upfront for a loan and that they should just take the $900 fee off the top of the loan, the man hung up without saying anything.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not fall for this!! I am sharing my near-tragic story with you all to save someone from falling into this trap. :)


These companies are getting ridiculous. This is the second or third incident I have read about in the forum today. I wonder how much money they are stealing from unsuspecting victims...Some people are very trusting (i.e. me until I joined this forum) and are very desperate to get out of a sticky situation. Also, these crooks are very smooth talking in some instances and some even go so far as to have valid looking websites.


lrhall41

Submitted by eleroo on Thu, 09/13/2007 - 14:38

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There was a bogus company doing this same sort of thing out of Jamaica -- they'd get customers to believe they were going to get a $10K loan, but all they needed to do was wire $800-1000 "deposit" up-front via Western Union.

It was weird because I was getting a whole bunch of calls at my work - angry people that were PO'd at me for taking their money. I'd say "hold on a second, are you sure your trying to reach (my company)?" And then I'd have to spend 10 mins explaining how I never took their money and somehow they got scammed.

Next thing I know, I got a letter from the IL Attorney General, who was investigating a bunch of theft/deception claims from this. They sent a copy of a letter that this bogus company sent out -- and it had our logo on it!

Turns out the bogus company went to my company's website, downloaded our logo, and then started scamming people using our company's name.

I handed it over to our corporate attorney, so he could respond back to the AG. I'm not sure whatever came of it, but we never heard from the AG again.


lrhall41

Submitted by DebtCruncher on Thu, 09/13/2007 - 17:20

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How horrible!! 'Second Chance Finance'......a 'second chance' at ..what?? Getting more in debt??? WOW!! Peopl will go so low!! I ahd an e-mail, this AM, about a Lottery I SUPPOSELY won. According to the letter, this lottery was out of British Columbia, and I had to "verify my winnings" with them.How..you may ask??.........By calling a certain number, they had in the letter and "verifing my bank account so a direct deposit can be made." Good grief!! Of course, i reported this e-mail to 'spam'.


lrhall41

Submitted by sdchargers_63 on Fri, 09/14/2007 - 13:07

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they keep calling me with a woman who has a thick Indian accent that can not answer my questions. I finally broke down and asked her how they wanted the $900 deposit. As soon as the words "Western Union" came out of her mouth I began laughing.

Now another person is calling me from this company stating that he has no knowledge of this woman OR any of the fraudulent requests that she has been making and still wants to give me a $8000 loan for only $800 "insurance fee". He's supposed to be emailing me all the info first thing tomorrow. I'll keep you updated on how that turns out. ;)


lrhall41

Submitted by spy_kittie on Fri, 09/14/2007 - 18:23

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When you recieved the call, were you able to gt a number ( if u have Caller ID)? "Insurance Fee?" ...good grief! People will go to 'great lengths'...won't they? If you DO have a number, this company is calling from, can you give it to me? Just curious what it is. Thanks.


lrhall41

Submitted by sdchargers_63 on Sat, 09/15/2007 - 10:54

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Upon checking the caller ID to get that number for you I noticed that the last number that called here was from the initial woman who was demanding $900 "camille brown". My husband then informed me that the phone conversation he had with the new guy who knew nothing of this woman "chris johnson" was initiated by my husband.

The number my husband called was 1.888.718.5740, which is also on their website at secondchancegrp dot com

When he was speaking with "camille brown" he was given 2 completely different numbers to call, one of which is a cell phone number. I did a reverse phone look up for the 2 numbers given to us by "camille" and both of them came up with no reults. Also, the address the company has listed on it's site & the addresses given to us in the forms are different, but I have yet to find anything that shows these addresses as existant.

I mentioned before that I am in process of obtaining my private investigator license (only 9 lessons left out of the 24), so I am definitely a professional skeptic. We've been burned by an advance fee lender before (last year) but that was due to a classifieds ad that my hubby responded to. He was so proud of himself for obtaining this loan that he wanted to surprise me with it, so the research didn't get done. It cost us $125 plus the western union fees to learn to do the research first!

after he sent the money out, he never heard anything back. when he tried to call them back he got a machine (as he did the first time apparently) and so I did a reverse phone/address look up to find there was no results for the number and the address that the western union form had on it lead to a dead end street in texas with no homes or businesses on it, and the address itself didn't exist. (hooray for google!)

we learned a valuable lesson.. thank goodness it was less than $200 and not this $900 scam.. dirtbags.. preying on the desperate!


lrhall41

Submitted by spy_kittie on Sat, 09/15/2007 - 14:40

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Thanks for the advice. I do have a question about a 'reverse look-up', on Google ( if anyone can answer it). My phone number is 'Unlisted' ( not in the phone book OR directory). However.....I did a 'reverse look-up' on Google and the number came right up. How can that happen, if I have a Private number?


lrhall41

Submitted by sdchargers_63 on Mon, 09/17/2007 - 18:30

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[font=Arial][/font][color=Blue][/color][size=6][/size]Thank you so much for posting this information...I have just applied w/this company and they have emailed me 2 times, I have yet to respond as I wanted to do some investigating on company first (yes, have learned lesson to investigate FIRST now!!) But thank you so much for sharing your information!


lrhall41

Submitted by anonymous on Tue, 09/18/2007 - 15:12

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same with silverstar lending...we filled out an online app...got a approval for 70,000 dollars and they wanted a collateral payment of 3,500 on it...my husband is a very big skeptic...didnt go for it at all!


lrhall41

Submitted by anonymous on Mon, 05/04/2009 - 22:39

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excellent ace dog.that is a scam and that is alot of money to lose.glad you didn't fall for it.


lrhall41

Submitted by paulmergel on Tue, 05/05/2009 - 05:31

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