Debtconsolidationcare.com - the USA consumer forum

cease and decess letter

Date: Wed, 10/31/2007 - 22:45

Submitted by kajunking007
on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 22:45

Posts: 23 Credits: [Donate]

Total Replies: 6


A while back I filed a cease and decess letter with the original creditor and now the loan has been bought by another company and is being collected by a cc. Is the cease and decess letter still in afectt from the original creditor? And do I have to warn them about it or can I just go to small claims court against them?


You cannot C&D an OC as the fdcpa does not apply to them. They are under no obligtion to send anything to future CA's either.

You need to send a C&D CMRRR...just because you faxed something doesnt mean they got it. Paper runs out, machine jams, it gets lost before entering into the system.


lrhall41

Submitted by SOAPLADY on Sun, 11/04/2007 - 05:07

( Posts: 17315 | Credits: )


Soaplady, That doesn't mean the CA didn't get the C&D letter just because it was faxed. The situations you mentioned, especially it getting lost before it enters the system, are internal problems at the CA. I bet if a CA faxed me something, and they had the fax confirmation sheet to prove it, I couldn't claim those excuses. Besides which, I'm sure some CA's have even tried to claim they never received a letter even though it was sent CMRR and signed for.

I am settling a lawsuit, out of court, against a CA I faxed a C&D letter to and they kept calling me. I have a copy of the letter and the fax confirmation, along with all the messages they left me after they received the C&D letter via fax. As far as I can determine, from reading the fdcpa, it doesn't specify the C&D has to be by mail.


lrhall41

Submitted by FloridaRon on Sun, 11/04/2007 - 05:23

( Posts: 1190 | Credits: )


Who is being nice to me? I hardly doubt it's the CA being nice to me. They got busted and are trying to avoid going to court and possibly having to pay a larger judgment amount. My attorney didn't have a problem with the C&D having been faxed to the CA.

True, there is no wording in the fdcpa covering e-mails or faxes; however, my point was that it doesn't specifically disqualify them. If a CA will accept signed settlements by fax, then a signed, faxed C&D should be just as acceptable. Besides which, this version of the FDCPA was enacted in 1996, if I am correct. At that time, faxes and most certainly E-mail was not as widely accessible and available as now; it's just another case of the laws not keeping up with technology.

And, as I pointed out, no delivery method is foolproof. I'm sure if I hand-delivered a C&D letter to a CA, handed it to an employee of the company, and took a picture of myself handing the letter to the CA employee, they might still try denying they received it. Letters get "lost" just as easily as faxes and e-mails.


lrhall41

Submitted by FloridaRon on Sun, 11/04/2007 - 13:00

( Posts: 1190 | Credits: )