Considering Bankruptcy-Would like some advice
Date: Wed, 02/13/2008 - 10:09
*Some* of these bills are on my credit report, totaling a little over $26,000. None of them have pursued me to pay these and I have just "dealt" with having crappy credit for these many years. Now two of the companies have contacted me recently for payment. One I believe is getting ready to garnish my wages. The bill is only $600 but that is still alot of money for me, although I could manage to pay it. The other bill, which I just received a "settlement offer letter" last month was for $1000.
From what I can see on my credit report, I still have another seven years for them to fall off-because the "last activity" dates are in 2007. I believe the last activity is when it goes by?
Nevertheless, the income/dependent cap was raised in our state and I now qualify under the means test. However from what I understand that does not necessarily mean that I could file chapter 7.
I am just very confused. I have alot of current debt that I can pay off, and technically I could pay off these 2 small bills-but if any of the larger ones come after me I would be in trouble.
I am trying to weigh my currently horrible credit versus the horrible credit a bankruptcy would provide. Either way I probably cannot get credit for quite some time but with a bankruptcy at least I would have a clean slate and a starting point for it to get better. On the other hand if I had to file chapter 13, my credit would be dinged and I would still have to pay stuff off? How do they determine how long and how much you have to pay? And if I was forced to filed chapter 13-what if I became unemployed during the payback time? (My boyfriend and I are trying to have a baby and I would want to stay home)
My current debt is about $30000 (15k of that being student loans) + the debt that is on my credit report of $26k. So about $56k total.
Alot of questions I know-I guess I just want to do the right thing. Does anyone have any advice?
When were the last payments made to his debts? What state are
When were the last payments made to his debts?
What state are you in/were these debts incurred in?
What kind of debt is this?
DOLA is not always reported accurately; the debts can remain on your credit report for 7 years from date of charge off.
BK is not the end of the world.
Thanks much for the response- Goodness,payments probably have
Thanks much for the response-
Goodness,payments probably have not been made on any of these since prior to our divorce which was January 2003.
All of the debts were incurred in the State of Washington and I still reside in Washington.
The small debt (600) is medical, the larger one (100) is credit card. The remainder of the debts are credit card, phone bill and personal loans from Wells Fargo.
The debt that I have now and am paying on are a mixture of credit card and medical bills.
How can I find the date of charge off? And what if bills were never charged off? Do they just stay on eternally?
Charge off = 180 days late...try contacting the original credito
Charge off = 180 days late...try contacting the original creditors to determine date of last payment
Washington appears to have an SOL of 3 years for the credit cards, and I think a loan may fall under a written contract SOL of 6 years.
Perhaps another member can provide insight into the SOL for medical bills.
I'm sorry to keep asking questions, but you are so knowledgeable
I'm sorry to keep asking questions, but you are so knowledgeable :p
Does that mean...if I contact say Wells Fargo and the date of last payment was lets say 5/31/02. Six months later on 1/1/03 it would be "charged off" and could therefore only be on my credit report for 7 years after that date (1/1/09)? Or does that just mean the statute of limitations is up on that date and they could no longer collect it?
SOL means they should not be filing a lawsuit to obtain payment.
SOL means they should not be filing a lawsuit to obtain payment. Time does not erase a debt, in theory, collections can continue indefinitely. After SOL has expired, it your right to make the moral and business decision of what to do with the debt--you can pay it off (all at once), or send cease and desist letters to whichever CA is attempting to collect it (if you choose to do so, they can choose to sell to another CA...send another CND if you desire).
Under the scenario you presented, you are correct in that drop off would be around Jan '09.
Not very knowledgeable, just a little.
Was any of this wording included in your divorce agreement? P
Was any of this wording included in your divorce agreement?
Protecting Yourself From Default or Bankruptcy
It is not unusual after a divorce for one spouse to fail to pay off a joint credit card debt which predates the divorce. If appropriate steps weren't taken to cut off liability, sometimes a joint account will remain open with both spouses liable for the new charges, even though the new charges are made after divorce. The debt load on these cards, delinquent payments, and any default or referral to a collection agency, will appear on the credit reports of both account holders. The creditor will also be able to pursue either or both account holders for payment, including interest, penalties, and possibly legal fees. The creditor does not have to be fair - if it wants, it can direct all of its collection efforts at the innocent spouse.
Thus, a divorce judgment should include a deadline by which the joint credit card debts allocated to each spouse will be paid off in full, and provide for appropriate remedies in the event that repayment does not occur. Note that refinancing credit card debt is often as simple as applying for a new credit card and requesting a balance transfer.
There should be a "hold harmless" clause in the divorce judgment which prevents the spouse who is responsible for the debt from trying to shift any responsibility back onto the other spouse, and an "indemnification" clause which requires the spouse who is responsible for the debt to repay any losses suffered by the other spouse, including any payments made toward the debt by that spouse, or legal fees incurred in defending against a collection action or returning to court to compel compliance with the terms of the divorce judgment.
There is also language which can be included in a divorce judgment, which can help protect an ex-spouse from being left without recourse if the other spouse declares bankruptcy before paying off the credit card debts. Ask your lawyer if it is possible to include language which will make the spouse's obligations under the divorce judgment non-dischargeable, or significantly less likely to be discharged, based upon the manner in which the debt and repayment obligation are characterized in the divorce judgment, for example by characterizing the timely payment of the debt as being necessary for the support of the other spouse.
Thank you for that info, Soaplady. I wish I [or my shyster attor
Thank you for that info, Soaplady. I wish I [or my shyster attorney] had thought of that when I went splits with my ex.