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Court Date Thursday

Date: Tue, 02/19/2008 - 20:09

Submitted by teresamichele
on Tue, 02/19/2008 - 20:09

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Hi all! I'm sort of nervous - my court date is on Thursday for a Breach of Contract suit.

The suit isn't valid, though, since they're saying I made a payment in 2/03...and I didn't. I have faxed records from my bank for 1/03, 2/03, and 3/03 that show that no payments were made. So hopefully the judge will see that and tell them to leave me alone. The SOL here in Missouri is 5 years.

I guess this isn't directly about dealing with a collection agency (though that's who sent the lawyers after me) but I'm scared and I can't talk to most people in my life about this. My boss just knows I need to take "a personal day" - so I thought maybe you all could offer me some advice so that I don't look like a total goof ball when I get in there. :D

Ideas? Things to watch out for?


Honestly, no. I thought legal aid was only for criminal cases. I'll look into it, though I'm not sure how much they can help me, since the date is tomorrow. I wonder if it's too late to get a continuance...

I'm a pretty smart cookie, though, so I think as long as I don't let the lawyers freak me out, I'll be fine.

I've been reading TONS of stuff on civil procedure here in Missouri.

So let's call it a $3,000 gamble.


lrhall41

Submitted by teresamichele on Wed, 02/20/2008 - 07:34

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Well, I talked to a lawyer. Apparently since this is in the Associate division there's lots of rules and stuff.

The lawyer wants a $1,500 retainer. My local legal aid doesn't have resources for this type of case, so I'd have to find a lawyer on my own.

I'm going to ask the lawyer at the firm that filed the suit if we can do the next docket call meeting, which will give me a month.

Apparently, though, I've got 30 days from the day of the summons to file an answer, but I have no idea how to do that. I'm freaking out a bit.

It's like I don't know how I'm supposed to do all of this without a lawyer but I certainly don't have $1,500 to give this guy.

Blah. I just hope he'll let it go till next month so I have a chance to try to figure some things out.


lrhall41

Submitted by teresamichele on Wed, 02/20/2008 - 12:15

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I agree with JCEMT--they made the claim that you made a payment and they are the ones who have to prove that this did in fact happen. Unless they can provide a cancelled check, or photocopy of a money order, etc etc etc, then they cannot prove anything about the re-aging of the debt. I would fight that point as hard as you can--it could make or break the whole case right there.


lrhall41

Submitted by skydivr7673 on Wed, 02/20/2008 - 15:05

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Well, I know it wasn't a check and by that point all of my cards had charged off, so I couldn't have paid it that way.

I'm going to ask the attorney tomorrow morning to move the docket hearing to next month. That will give me time to get everything in order.

I did find a copy of how to write an "answer" to the suit, and I'll file that Friday, which is totally within my 30 days. Then I'll send out a DV letter and I'm hoping it'll all just go poof. :)

I doubt very much I'll be retaining an attorney - I don't have $1,500 or anywhere near it. I thought about the idea of a counter-claim. We shall see.

If I can get the docket hearing moved to next month, though, I do think I can do this. I've been reading up on the civil procedures and whatnot.

I'll let you all know tomorrow how it goes. :)

Thanks a bunch for your help!


lrhall41

Submitted by teresamichele on Wed, 02/20/2008 - 18:42

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Well, I survived!

I went to talk to the lawyer at the docket hearing. He seemed like a nice guy, but I knew that he was there to do a job. Before he even said anything about the case, he put a "Monthly Budget Analysis" sheet in front of me so that he could help me come up with an idea of what I could pay. I smiled and said that while normally that would be a fine idea, there was a problem. I had him flip to the correct page in the lawsuit and showed him where they had put the date of the last payment.

I explained that the payment was never made, and showed him my bank statements, which he made copies of. He said he'd get ahold of the creditor and let me know. We continued it till next month.

The only real problem I had was that I told him that I was going to send a DV letter to the creditor. He told me it was too late for that - once a suit was filed, they weren't going to respond to a DV letter. Is that true? Isn't that part of discovery? Don't I have a right to get a debt verification even if a suit has been filed?

Any thoughts would be great. As a note, I'm in St. Louis City, Missouri.


lrhall41

Submitted by teresamichele on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 11:07

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OK--here's the thing. You dont ever need to send a DV letter to the original creditor. it has to go to the plaintiff. And at this point, you would have to file a motion for discovery and request validation that way. The funny thing is this--he can tell you all he wants that it doesnt matter, but their suit claims that you made a payment, and that payment is a very important piece of the puzzle--without it they cannot legally sue you. So, you need to force them to prove that this payment actually was made. If they cannot, then move for immediate dismissal on the grounds of expired statute of limitations.

Just remember, you do NOT want to use the term "verification" at all. You are requesting validation instead, there is a really big difference.


lrhall41

Submitted by skydivr7673 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 11:19

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Oh, I meant to send to the plantiff. Sorry!

At this point, I'm going to file my answer with the court tomorrow (which is within the 30 days).

Should I wait to see what the lawyer discovers from the plaintiff or should I go ahead and file a motion for discovery and request validation?

Also, if they can't produce proof, and they withdraw the lawsuit, will I be unable to file a counter-claim at that point? I don't want to file it unless I'm sure, you know, but if they lied on that piece of paper, they're violating the law and I don't want them to get away with it.


lrhall41

Submitted by teresamichele on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 11:23

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